Actor Nani with Sadhguru – In Conversation with the Mystic


Speaker: Hyderabad, we have some
very good news for everyone! The New York Times best-seller
“Inner Engineering – A Yogi’s Guide to Joy” will now be available in Telugu (Applause). In this book, for the first time Sadhguru
presented readers with a path to achieving absolute well-being through the classical
science of yoga in a practical, accessible book. Sadhguru tells the story of his own awakening,
from a boy with an affinity for the natural world to the… to a young daredevil who crossed
the Indian subcontinent on his motorcycle. The wisdom distilled in this accessible, profound
and engaging book offers the readers opportunity to achieve nothing less than a life of joy. It has sold over three lakh copies in English
so far and been translated over twenty languages in India and abroad (Applause). we are happy
to announce that the book is now available in Telugu published by (Sounds like – MS
Co?) Books, Hyderabad. To launch this book we request Nani
to please come on the dais (Cheers/Applause). (Nani launches Inner Engineering –
A Yogi’s Guide to Joy) (Cheers/Applause) Speaker: We also take this opportunity to thank Shri. Chandrashekar Reddy garu
(‘garu’ – Referring to the Telugu word meaning – Sir), Chief Editor, MS Co Books and volunteers who helped translate the book. We extend our heartfelt gratitude to
Shri. Vijayakumar garu, Chairman, MS Co Books, for publishing these books. Thank you Nani (Applause)! Now, to the much awaited part of the
event that we are all looking forward, I request Sadhguru to please come on the dais (Cheers/Applause)! (Sadhguru’s presence)
Sadhguru chants Kaala Na Janaati… Sadhguru: Namaskaram to everyone! Nani: Okay, how many Telugu speaking people are here?
(Cheers/Applause) After seeing this it feels so good because I was told to do something
new to converse with Sadhguru. So, in order to do something new
I watched all the old videos. After watching the old videos immediately I understood that my conversation is gonna be new
for sure because I’m not that good in English. (Cheers/Applause) So, I’m telling you ahead of time…
still will try to ask in English if it looks like butler English for you if you do trolls then it won’t be good. Is it okay?
(Cheers/Applause) When Sadhguru was coming…
when I was coming with him in car… Sadhguru: What is the equivalent for Butler English? Nani: Similar to that Sadhguru. Sadhguru knows Telugu so I can boldly speak in Telugu. When we were coming Sadhguru asked me in car so at the stadium what maybe
the age group of your fans? “Sir, whosoever is coming now are not my fans.
Your fans! And they belong to all age group.” So.. Sir, first time… Sadhguru: What is this you are copying questions? Nani: That’s what I was about to tell
because first time in my life I feel so special because lifelong I’ve never answered for any of the questions
that my teachers have asked but today I’m gonna ask questions to someone who has answers
for all the questions. This is not a simple thing no? (Cheers/Applause) And as you said this afternoon when I was writing
the questions, I was feeling very nostalgic because when I was in school… I was
writing questions in the answer sheet also not knowing answers So, will start now, did so much time pass. Actually we came here to listen to his speech. So, first… When I was an Assistant Director,
we used to grow a beard, Sir, because people will take us seriously, tch. Sadhguru: I did not grow. It grows (Laughter)! Nani: I know (Laughs), I know. I mean to say we never used to shave because whenever we went to a hero or a producer
and narrated stories we thought they will… they will take us seriously, they will believe us. So, I saw in one video where you are saying,
“We should let it grow, it’s natural” and all that. Is this angle also involved in it
or it’s just that (Laughter)… Sadhguru: (Laughs) Well, Nature did not give anything for you
which is unnecessary. It’s all part of the evolution. So some people have removed some hair,
some people have sacrificed their brains (Laughter), some people out of their love for somebody
they’ve given away kidney. I thought I will be more useful to the world
if I keep everything as it is (Laughter/Applause). Nani: But you cut the nails right?
Then that also should grow right? Sadhguru: No, that also would not have been
necessary if we lived in the jungle, it would have been useful (Referring to the nails)
and it would have gone worn out by use. Today because lifestyles have become such
that you don’t use your hands so much, so maybe you will have to cut it. I just rub it on the rock usually (Nani laughs) (Laughter). Those of you who don’t have nail-cutters like me, you don’t have to bite it, if you just sit somewhere
and do this (Gestures) (Laughter/Applause)… Nani: Sir this… this question has been
bothering me from a long time. See, most of the questions today I’m going
to ask are not the ones I’ve asked on Twitter or anywhere to ask questions
“I will ask, Sadhguru” I’m not forwarding it here. I’m just asking whatever I have a doubt. So it might… you might find it very
basic, dumb, or whatever. But those are my questions, so I’m asking them. So this is been bothering me for… from a long time. When I was an Assistant Director, I remember my first
salary when they gave it to me, it was 4000 rupees and then I remember it was all hundred rupees notes. So when I put it in my pocket, there was a
bump under my bum. So when I was going back on the bike, I could feel it and I was feeling, “I’m so rich,
I have so much cash in my pocket.” And I was r… I can remember how excited I was, how… I wanted to buy a… half of the Hyderabad
with 4000 bucks (Laughter). So I was… I was really, really, happy and I don’t remember that kind
of happiness, you know, happening to me again. Now I’m earning thousands of times of that, but I don’t remember what, you know,
having that same feeling again. Even Saturday night we used to… with my friends
I used to go to this Sony dhaba, for quarter (Referring to alcohol) (Laughter), okay. From Monday to Friday, I used to wait for Saturday. On the Saturday morning I used to be so excited
that it’s Saturday again, evening we’re all going to catch up, meet
and then going to the Sony dhaba. So I was really happy and then I never really… I made it I was successful in cinema. I never imagined that I will made it… make it so far. But I never experienced that kind of happiness. So is success overrated? Like we all… we all are waiting for success
we all think that someday we want to be success, but the idea of success, is it… is it not
overrated is what I want to ask (Applause). Sadhguru: Oh All those who clapped,
we know they’re failures (Laughter). Nani: All of them are Soni Dhabha Batch
(Sadhguru laughs) Sadhguru: Maybe! They’re all the dhaba people. Nani: Yeah, yeah. Sadhguru: See when you understand a
means as an end, then this will happen. Money is just a means to do whatever we wish to do. The reason why everybody keeps
a certain amount of money is so that tomorrow morning, I don’t have to worry
“where’s my breakfast” so that survival is taken care of, so that I
can put myself into what I value most. Otherwise, every day morning
I’ll have to go in search of food. So, money is just about that, it is a
means to organize a few things. A whole lot of people everywhere, particularly in
Hyderabad, they’re going at it as if money is their goal. Money is not your goal, it’s just a means. So in your life, for the span of life that
you have and the intelligence that you have and the capability that you have, how much means
do you need is something you must gauge. Otherwise, you will have means
and you will not have any goal. What is the use of a means, but there is no
goal – you have a car, but you don’t know
where to go, what is the point? You know where to go – if you get on the bus,
you will go there in six hours; if you get into your car, you will go there in two hours. That’s why you have a car, because
you know where you want to go. Now you don’t know where you want to go,
but you have a rocket – what is the point? And anyway, if you bought half of Hyderabad,
I want you to understand, the real fun is in the other half always
(Laughter/Applause)! Nani: Four thousand more, Sir, next month salary
(Sadhguru laughs) (Laughter). Sadhguru: You have heard of Alexander the Great. You’ve heard of Alexander the Great? Participants: Yes Sadhguru: The moment you make an idiot like that “great” (Laughter), then your life is ruined. Because… I want you to understand what this man did. Alexander started off on his conquest mode
at the age of sixteen. He went from country to country, killing hundreds
of thousands… thousands of people, killing… saying, “This is my land,” but won’t sit there
and enjoy that land, will go to the next one, because the other part of the Hyderabad
he’s looking (Laughter). Like this he came all the way to India,
or to the entry of Indian subcontinent. By then he’s thirty-two, he’s tired – killing,
fighting, fighting, killing endlessly. He killed many of his very close friends who started off
with him because they all wanted to go back. Sixteen years – no cell phone,
you can’t talk to your family; they’ve left the land sixteen years ago,
at the age of sixteen, seventeen. They are fighting endlessly killing – blood,
blood, blood, all… that’s all they’ve seen. Everybody’s tired, but this man
wants the other part of Hyderabad. So he went through a certain experience. Now, time is running out. For a warrior thirty-two is not a good age, tch. Things are becoming a little weaker, you know,
not as good as it was at twenty-five. So he is worried. So one thing is, he wants to conquer the world
and it’s taking too much time, so he wanted to become immortal. This is the next – once you have Hyderabad,
next is immortality. So he wants to become immortal. So he heard lots of stories – Indian yogis,
mystics who lived for thousands of years, you know, India is full of such stories. So he sent out an advance party of one eight soldiers – “Go find an Indian yogi who will teach me
the science of immortality.” So they came looking around
and then they found one yogi, somewhere – probably looking at the descriptions, we think somewhere in the – let’s say, in the Pakistani-Punjab, that region somewhere – looking at the description of terrain,
everything, it seems like that; we could be wrong, but somewhere in that region – what is presently Pakistan, which was
considered India at that time. So he came and… They came and they found a yogi sitting under the tree – just one loin cloth, simply sitting there
under the tree, blissed out. They looked at him and they said, “You come. Our Alexander wants to meet you.” Yogi laughed and said, “I’m not going anywhere.
I’m here. If he wants, please ask him to come.” They said, “No, you better come.
He’s the emperor. You just come now.” He said, “No.” They pulled out their swords – these are violent men,
they can take off your life for nothing; now he’s given a good cause,
that he’s refusing their orders. So they said, “We’ll take off your head.” He laughed and said, “Take it off! I’ve finished everything that I need to do with myself.
I’m just sitting here enjoying the… my existence. You want to take my head, take it!” See If I take your head, I will not get your intelligence,
this is one thing people must understand (Laughter). If I could get your intelligence, I could
take all your heads and keep it with me. But no, if I take your head I will not get
anything from you, only thing is I’ll have a… a piece of meat to handle (Laughs). So when… Then they thought, “Oh, this guy
is not scared of death. He must be immortal.” They said, “Please come, our emperor
wants to know about immortality.” The yogi laughed, “Let him come here” (Laughs)! Then they went back and said, “I think we
have met a man who is immortal because we pulled out our swords,
that guy is not scared. Obviously he must be immortal!” Then he himself came. When he came, Alexander sat on his horse. You know, emperors wear the most stupid clothing,
you know, how… everyday same clothing (Laughter) and a metal… Sadhguru: Crown is the most uncomfortable
headgear to wear, at least this is nice, you know (Laughter), this (Referring to his headgear)
comforts you. Crown is a terrible thing to wear. Just wear one metal strap around your head for
two days and see how it feels to be a king (Laughter). So he tried to talk to him, he said, “You… I want to know immortality.” They yogi said, “Get off that stupid horse.” Because… Have you seen, always when somebody sits on
a horse, they become like this (Gestures)? You sit on an animal which is less intelligent
than you and suddenly you feel so big (Laughter)! So he said, “You get off that stupid horse first.” So he got off, then he asked about immortality. The yogi tried to tell him,
“See, this is not the way to go. If you want I will teach you
how to turn inward. We will see!” He said, “No, no, I want immortality.” After much conversation when it did not get anywhere,
the yogi said, “Okay, you go in this direction.” He gave the landmarks, how to get there, a
long journey – about five day journey. “There, there is one cave; in that cave,
there is a… a bowl of water in a stone, you know, on the stone floor,
there is a certain amount of water. You just drink a handful of that water,
you will become immortal.” Immediately Alexander set forth. After three days, him and his eight soldiers going – then he thought, “If these eight guys
also become immortal” (Laughter)… You can’t… See, the power is in killing them –
his power is “I can kill you any moment I want.” Suppose you become immortal, I can’t kill you. Then how do I manage you? So he said, “You guys stay here. The last part of the journey, I want to do it myself.” So he left them there and alone he went, found the cave. Then he found that water as he was told. He went and put his hands and was about to drink,
then a voice spoke and said, “Don’t drink that water.
I drank that and look at my state.” He looked around, “Who is talking?” There was nobody around,
by then the water slipped out. Then he saw a crow and the crow said
“Don’t drink that water. I drank that water, I don’t know when and
now the problem is I cannot die!” See, if we really want to punish you,
death sentence is not such a bad thing, if we curse you that you can never die (Laughter) –
a million years later, you’re still sitting here, this is the worst punishment (Laughs). Sadhguru: So, Alexander did one sensible thing
– he did not drink that water, otherwise we had to suffer him even today (Laughter)! Nani: Would have been sitting in the first row! Sadhguru: So this is the only sensible thing
he did in his life – he did not drink that water, because he realized that he will not a…
be able to bear himself, forget about the world. The world will suffer of course, but he himself
cannot stand himself beyond a certain point. So we must understand this life is not a conquest. This is not a conquest. The only thing that’s there for you in this life
is the profoundness of your experience. How profound is your experience when you sit here? This all there is, nothing else you carry. Other arrangements we make for convenience. How much convenience do you want? Convenience will work only to a certain point,
it will never transform itself into well-being. People have invested and invested like this endlessly. I met somebody, you know, I was in a home
in United States and I walked into this room and I found seven hundred to
eight hundred pairs of footwear. And this lady of the house came in and she saw I was in
this room, said, “Sadhguru, Sadhguru why are you here?” I said, “What is this footwear?” She says, “No Sadhguru, let’s go.
What you want, Sadhguru” (Laughs)? I said, “Whose footwear?” Then I see it’s all ladies,
“Oh it’s all your footwear? Eight hundred pairs!” “I can understand,… you want one shoes for walking, another for jogging, another for golf, another for office and another for party – well, you are a woman you want all the
seven colors of the rainbow (Laughter)! All right, you have twenty-five,
you have thirty, its okay with me. Eight hundred (Laughter)! How will you wear on this two feet –
you’re not a centipede” (Laughter)? I said, “How many lifetimes are you
planning to come back and walk? The day you met me, I thought
we will make this the last one for you. But now you’ve got shoes for many lifetimes ready!
It’ll all go waste if you don’t come back.” Then this was bothering me and I met a CEO of a
very large shoe-making company in America. Then I asked him, “Why would a woman buy
eight hundred pairs of shoes?” He said, “Sadhguru that is the only thing she can buy the
same size throughout her life” (Laughter/Applause)! Then I thought, “It’s okay, maybe” (Laughter)! But the fun is in the other half, okay (Laughter)! Nani: So basically what this means is that I’ve become
more wise that I am unable to enjoy (Laughter)? Sadhguru: See, you cannot enjoy anything,
this must be understood. If you try to enjoy something
you will bring misery upon yourself. But if you’re joyful, everything is nice. You’re supposed to be joyful, you’re not
supposed to enjoy. What is that enjoy? Nani: We use it a lot (Laughter). Sadhguru: I know! When there is no joy, you try to enjoy (Laughter). It is just that if you add one more alphabet… Nani: It might be my English skill problem. Sadhguru: No, no. If you add one more alphabet it’ll become
“end-joy” (Laughter). Nani: (Laughs) Yeah, maybe
I meant joyful only, but then… I never again felt that kind of a high, that
without thinking anything to be completely joyful. Sadhguru: So if joy is what you’re looking for,
this will not come because of a bulge in your pocket. Sadhguru: So joy means your life energy is
in a certain state of exuberance, you’re not dead. Mostly people are committing suicide in installments, slowly they’re becoming like this
(Gestures of serious face) (Laughter). All these people, if you saw them when they
were five years of age they were like this (Gestures of smiling face) (Laughter). Slowly (Gestures) grave faces – grave faces because I think many of them are practicing
the last pose in their life (Laughter/Applause)! You’re an actor, you can tell them (Laughter). You don’t have to practice, believe me. You… When it comes to death,
you’re a natural star (Laughter/Applause). Have you… have you… Nani: That’s my tag, my nickname!
Sadhguru: I know! Nani: Oh, he knows (Laughter)? Sadhguru: Have you ever seen any dead body which is
having a wrong expression on its face (Laughter)? Nani: No. Sadhguru: No. So why are you practicing now? Life has many expressions that will happen
if you are in a certain exuberance of life. If you are slowly killing yourself – yes, literally
killing yourself, so slowly it is becoming like half-dead. I want you to understand this, fully alive is fantastic;
dead is good, at least for others (Laughter), but half-alive means it’s torture. See, if I want to keep you… If I want
to torture you, what will I do? Will I kill you? I will keep you half-alive, that is torture, isn’t it? So if you keep yourself half-alive, this is torture. Everyday waking up in the morning itself is
torture for a whole lot of people. Only little joy when that Sony Dhaba (Laughter/Applause)… Nani: Sony Dhaba. Sadhguru: Like in America, they have a culture
“Thank God, it’s Friday!” Nani: “Thank God, it’s Friday” – correct! Sadhguru: So if five days of the week is misery,
how come Friday becomes joy? No. Chemical induced something. Nani: Mhmm (Indicating agreement) Sadhguru: This is the greatest danger in human life. Today we are going towards this very rapidly. To be healthful, we need chemicals; to be peaceful,
we need chemicals; to be joyful, we need chemicals; to be blissful, we need chemicals;
for ecstasy, you have ecstasy (Laughter) – for everything you need to chemicals. Once this happens – right now, I think it is happening approximately twenty-five to
thirty percent of the population on the planet – the day It happens to eighty
to ninety percent of the planet, that everybody’s on some kind of chemical to experience
something, then the next generation that you produce will be much lesser than you. Once we produce a generation which is less than us,
we have committed the crime against humanity. The next generation should
at least be one step ahead of us. If we leave them behind us,
this is a crime against humanity? We’re trying to get there rapidly (Applause). Nani: So, now for me in particular
again I feel the same way I think I think during my release time, after working for nine months on a film, when I get to watch the film on screen, That three hours is meditation for me. It’s the most happiest moment in a year for me,
I don’t know if it’s an good thing or a bad thing. So next question. Why am I sweating and not you? (Laughter) Sadhguru: I am the one who was facing the questions.
I should be the one sweating. (Laughter) (Cheers/Laughter/Applause) Till here… Till I came here I was confident,
in between they played AV there after seeing that AV it started sweating. So, in between will keep wiping please don’t mind. (Sadhguru handsover a tissue paper to Nani)
(Cheers/Laughter/Applause) I also joined margadarshi
so they kept a tissue box for me too Thank you Sadhguru but felt
happy getting it from your hand. Nani: Next this… I don’t know
how many people will connect to this. Generally in our homes… Generally,
this dhrishti is a very big thing. Dhrishti you know, right? So, since my childhood my mom generally
used to say we have to ward off dhrishti And whenever I go out she used to say,
“You’re looking so good, so have to ward off dhrishti or cinema is too good have to ward off dhrishti.
Maybe there’s dhrishti on you.” Later whenver even if a small accident happens
or if any problem occurs – “See, you got dhrishti.” Unknowingly people around us have
developed it as a very popular idea. So, I started initially I used to think silliness
my mom just wants to do and “okay do it.” But later, later when… when I started having this
some accident at the shoot or something, something, it kept on happening and particularly,
I had this back to back hits and… and then I had this back to back accidents also
and then without me realizing I started believing it. Suddenly I started reminding my mom
“Amma, dhrishti I’m leaving” (Laughter). So, this concept of dhrishti prevails
in many ways, told in many ways. people say some energy they
something else, something else… But it is a very household thing.
But it is a very popular belief. What is your opinion on this?
Does this exist or no? (Laughter/Applause) Sadhguru: Do you bathe everyday? (Laughter) No, why I’m asking is in Chennai, they’re
having bath once in three days (Laughter). Nani: (Laughs) We still have not
gone that far in Hyderabad Sadhguru: Haven’t gone that far,
Still hussain Sagar (Laughter/Applause) So yesterday I was speaking with a prominent group of people in the evening, one of the government officials said, “All
these rich people are having shower every day.” I said, “Where do you come from huh” (Laughter)? In South India, without having a shower, we
won’t step out of our home, no matter what. Even if you don’t drink we’ll shower first (Laughs). So don’t start this new culture have shower
once in – “Thank God, it’s Friday” (Laughter)! So you have… You wash your body with water. It’s not just about removing the dirt. Even if you don’t have any dirt, have you seen
after a day’s work, if you pick up a lot of stuff, you come and have a shower – uff
it’s like new life has come – does it happen? Hmm? Not just cleansing the body, it’s not the soap –
just the water running over your body. You go take a dip in a river, stay there for ten minutes,
come out, just see – it feels like you’re born again. Because… You need to understand this body
is made of fundamentally five elements of earth, water, fire, air and space. This season in our yoga center, because we have a wind tunnel, in the sense from the silent valley, the winds – the monsoon winds that blow,
gets kind of focused in the valley and when it comes towards the yoga center
it’ll at becoming anywhere between seventy to… seventy to hundred-and-ten kilometers
per hour different times of the day. So at this time all our people are doing sadhana
just standing in the wind like this (Gestures) because this is a wind-wash. Water-wash, you’re doing everyday;
wind-wash you can do. People – yogis were always smearing
themselves with earth, but today that’s become mud bath
in the spa, okay (Laughs). So mud bath is there. Similarly there is the fire-wash. This fire-wash, we call it Klesha Nashana kriya, that means an act which will take away
the impurities that gather around you. Because your body is not just here,
your body doesn’t stop here – it extends itself. Have you noticed – probably women are more sensitive to this than men, you don’t have to be touched by somebody,
if somebody comes a bit too close – not a psychological thing, that’s a different matter, psychological and emotional aspects are there –
leaving that, if somebody comes too close right there itself there is a feeling that you know, you want some distance? They haven’t touched you, just like this (Gestures). This itself causes some disturbance, isn’t it? Because the body doesn’t end here,
the energy is little beyond that. How much beyond that depends on
how exuberant your life energies are. If you’re life energies are truly exuberant,
you can fill this hall with it, otherwise, it is at least little bit – for most human beings, it could be anywhere
between three to nine inches outside of their body. So as impurities gather on your body, if you drive out, if you drive a two-wheeler, you will see –
I become younger every time I ride a motorcycle because if I ride for four to five hours and come back,
people say, “Sadhguru, your beard has turned black” (Laughter) – full black carbon (Laughs)! Sadhguru: So…
Nani: Pollution! Sadhguru: So you gather material
on your body, you wash it. Similarly, you’re gathering other kinds of
material upon your energetic system. You can wash this water with water,
certain impurities will go with that; if you wash it with air, certain other things will go,
but air is not always available like that. You can even notice this, if you… But these days, these fans are going at a
certain speed. But if you have the fans set at the right kind of speed,
if you just sit under the fan for some time, you will see something within you lifts up. Have you noticed this? Participants: Yes Sadhguru: Little air wash! Similarly, there’s a fire-wash
which you’re calling dhrishti. Is it necessarily happening because of others
people’s look or not – that’s a questionable matter. But impact of life around you, upon your energy system,
is definitely happening. If you have a spiritual process within you, that is you’re doing some kriya, or you’re doing some
meditative processes, then you don’t need all this because you know how to wash yourself from within. If you do not have that, these things become significant. I must tell you this, there is a certain way to do, which
few generations ahead people knew exactly how to do, but today I’m seeing they’re just burning
something and doing this, this, this (Gestures). If you come to the yoga center, we’re doing this Klesha Nashana kriya
in a scientific manner how it should happen. We have relieved people of various
chronic ailments just by this fire-wash. One surprise element that we found out recently is, we found that many children who are
suffering with ADH with learning disabilities, within a matter of six to eight weeks of this fire-wash, they have changed dramatically –
this we never expected (Applause)! So your mother knowingly or
unknowingly giving you a fire-wash might have given you some learning ability (Applause). I’m bowing down to her, she did fire-wash (Laughs)! Nani: Same! Where is mom? There, okay.
Sadhguru: Okay! (Laughs) (Applause) Now when you told that our body will extend
I got connected well because in cinema during fight as it comes this far we’ll fall. (Laughter) Sadhguru: That’s true! Nani: No need to touch. So,.. Nani: This is a very casual doubt.
There was a very good actor Raghuvaran, sir Sadhguru: Ragu… Nani: Raguvaran, that’s his name,
very popular actor. He’s no more. But still when he used to act, for prompting, when he used act in other languages when he used to act in other languages he… for prompting he used to give these spaces
in between dialogue and in dialogue where Assistant Director used to prompt him. So that became a style, tch, the… the spaces
became a style and you know it was very popular. Sometime when I was seeing the videos, sometimes
when there was some… one complicated question, you start laughing, so I… I doubt if it’s the…
it’s the prompting break. Sadhguru: Really (Laughter)? Nani: Okay. No, who is that person was
prompting in your head and how do you in that little fraction of second so well composed answer will come out how is that possible (Cheers/Applause)? Sadhguru: No (Laughs). (Cheers/Applause) No, it’s not a prompting break (Few laugh). I don’t wish to insult people,
but now that you asked (Laughs) – you think it’s the prompting right now (Laughter). What usually people think is very complex,
is usually the dumbest thing possible; what people think is very simple,
actually has a way to touch life. Simple things that people ask has profoundness to it –
most profound things are very simple. This complication is coming because
of their own mind, not because of life. So when they ask these stupid questions,
which they think is intellectually complex, I can’t help laughing (Laughter/Applause). Nani: I should keep a count of how many times
you laughed today. (Laughter) I have to rethink “Did I ask that bad a question?” (Laughter) Sadhguru: So, about answering a question – I’m usually not answering a question,
I’m always answering the person. They can say whatever they want, I’m not listening to
them (Few laugh), because people can say lot of things. Shakuni – the Mahabharat Shakuni – Shakuni said God gave us, humans, ability to speak to hide what is in their mind. See that crooked man (Laughter)! Not to express what’s in their hearts, to hide what is in their heart –
that is why God gave us ability to speak, which is true half the time with most human beings. So, they are making up complexities because
they think by being difficult, they become valuable. By being difficult you don’t become valuable, by becoming easy, you become valuable, isn’t it (Applause)? This has happened to everybody, but
particularly to the so called spiritual people – you tell them anything simple, they will speak
in a language that you cannot understand. First thing, this is the knockout (Laughs). The first knockout is, if you say something,
I’ll tell one sloka that you cannot understand (Laughter). See, it’s a way of totally knocking you out. I say something that you have no clue,
you cannot figure this. Now, I will go into a long philosophy
about a simple question that you ask. So people are making a living
by making simple things complex. My life is about making complex things simple (Applause), because it is only by making things
as simple as possible, it becomes accessible. If you… If a child is trying to pluck a mango from the mango tree, you’re supposed to pull the branch down,
not to lift it up and say, “Okay, pluck it. Let me see you’ll grow taller.” No, you’re supposed to bring it down, because
a mango is not going to hang there forever, it’s only for the season. Yes? Life is not going to hang there forever, it’s just a little
bit small season you have of your own. Isn’t it so? Don’t think you’re here forever. Before you and me came, countless number of
smart people have been here, they’re… now they’re all under this (Referring to the earth),
buried somewhere. Isn’t it so? So, it’s a brief amount of time. In this, should you see how to make things simple,
or should you look at how to make it complex? This is the nature of the intellect – a intellect will feel – if you’re living
just out of your intellect, it will feel stupid if it’s simple; it want complexity. So people who think they’re intellectual,
always are making simple things extremely complex – unnecessarily complex and then they’re miserable. But they think that is also a virtue. If you’re joyful, they think you’re not intellectual. It must be like this (Gestures) (Laughter),
really it must look like that. This also is needed (Gestures). Nani: Yeah, that’ll… definitely… Sadhguru: Needed! Otherwise… And you must also do… You must speak two words, (Gestures of coughing) – that is prompting time (Laughter). I don’t have any prompting time, because I have no knowledge, I have no nothing. I just strived to be free of all the memory that I have – my body, what memory it carries;
my genetics, what memory it carries; my experience of life, what memory it carries, I know how to keep it aside
and simply look at things as they are. This means in your home you have a mirror,
being a star – even if you’re natural, you still
need a mirror, right (Laughter)? Nani: Why are you laughing?
Don’t you have in your homes? (Laughter) Sadhguru: Many of them spend more time
in front of the mirror than you. Nani: More than me. Yeah, definitely, that’s what… Sadhguru: So suppose your mirror remembered, let us
say, even ten percent of what it has seen in its lifetime. If you went and stood in front of it today,
what would it show you – total mess! The value of the mirror is, it has no memory. If it developed memory – gone (Applause)! So this is… This is the value of your mind, if you know how to keep memory –
the silo of memory aside and keep it, it’s like a mirror – whatever it sees,
it sees clearly, distinctly the way it is. Somebody likes it, somebody doesn’t like it
– it’s their problem, that’s their memory issue. Tch, see, how does somebody like or dislike something? They’ve developed a certain memory – I like this,
I don’t like this; I belong to this. I don’t belong to this. I don’t belong to anything, I’m just looking at it as it is. Maybe in a given moment, you are not able
to expose all dimensions of what it is, at least what is relevant for that moment. So does your mirror need prompting time? Television needs time, tube light needs time. Mirror doesn’t need time, so no prompting (Applause)! Nani: In a way… I asked this sort of question
because you answer so beautifully. If someone asks the same question now if someone
asks where is your car? I will say it’s in the parking. But you would not use the word parking, you say
something but I will get that it’s in parking. That… How do you answer
so beautifully is a big doubt now and got answer for that question also but
I don’t know how it comes from you. (Applause) So, how many are married and have kids here? Aha ha ha ha too many people.
That’s why this question actually so this question, it’s from a parent to a parent, I have
seen few videos where you spoke about your daughter. This has been a big doubt as a father for me
because growing up my father was very strict. Then I thought I have to be very friendly
with my son like a… like a friend. And then I’ve seen a few kids who are really spoilt
because their parents have been really friendly. And then I think little bit of, have to be strict.
So there’s a lot of confusion. What do you think according to you obviously to each, to their own, but in your view
what is the right way of parenting to be Is it full freedom or should we
be little tough with the kids (Applause). Sadhguru: See, why should we think on these terms? A child is not a… See you must understand this. If a tiger is born – let’s say, the tiger cub is born; ninety percent of what he needs
for his life is within himself, only ten percent parenting. The Tiger’s parents – mother and father do just a little, ninety percent is intrinsic. If he just eats well
he becomes a good tiger, this is all. But now you’re born as a human being, you’re…
only ten percent is within you of being human, ninety percent has to be nurtured. This is the significant thing about being human, because the range of possibilities of how many varieties
of human beings you can be within yourself is too many. That is not so for any other creature. They’re born like that, nature has fixed it like that. Little variations – ten percent variation
between one tiger and another tiger, if both of them eat well,
they’re about the same tigers, isn’t it? So because of this, human parenting
becomes an important aspect. So, once you bear a child it’s a twenty-year-project,
tch that is if they do well (Laughter). If they don’t do well it’s a lifelong project (Applause). So you want them to do well so that you can be free. Yes? Because you understand if they’re… if they don’t do well,
they will sit on your lap for your rest of your life. No, no, they must go. So what do you have to give them? You don’t have to teach them the
tricks of the world – that they will learn. Some will learn easy, some will learn the hard way –
it’s okay, they must learn it their way. What you give them is “what it means
to be human being,” this is all you give them. So for this, you must look at yourself. You don’t have to do much with them. If a child arrives in your house,
if your child is born in your home, you should not think you have
to do something with the child. You must look at yourself,
because children don’t listen to you. Whatever the nonsense you speak, they’re not
listening to you, just like me, they are (Laughter)! I’m not listening to anybody, I just look at them
and answer them (Applause). They’re just looking at you,
observing every little thing that you do – how you sit, how you stand, how you speak, what is
the expression on your face – all this is they’re seeing. You see how the child is looking (Gestures) (Laughter)? Nani: Yeah, yeah. Sadhguru: He’s not listening to you, he’s looking. So you must become in such a way that when
he looks at you, he wants to be like you (Applause). So being a star in Andhra Pradesh,
Telangana is fine, that’s a profession. But you must become a star to your child.
Your child should think, “My father is a star!” Not because you are popular in the world, but he sees you as the best human being
that he can think of, because there’s not much exposure for him,
there is a safety (Laughs). He’s not seeing so many people; he’s just
seeing mother, father, a few people. Among the few people that he sees, he must look at you
as you’re the best man out here (Applause). If he sees that… Nani: That’s… That’s what I’m working on Sadhguru. Sadhguru: If he sees that, he will anyway go that way. If he doesn’t see you that way, then he will look
all over the place for some other kind of example. Nani: Yeah. Sadhguru: Today, the examples that he sees are not
necessarily at home, or school, or in the neighborhood; they are somewhere in another part of the world, they may not even exist. I’m saying they may not even exist,
but they’re influencing him. So, especially if his screen time has to go down,
you must be really a superstar at home. Tch, you understand? Nani: Everyone! Sadhguru: Yes! (Applause) This is not just for him, for every one of you this is
the only way – your child wants to be who you are. He looks at you and thinks, “Oh, my father,
hmm (Gestures) (Laughter), this is not what I want to be” (Laughter), then you try as hard as you want, he will do everything
that you don’t like just to freak you (Nani laughs). Yes, you’ve done it. Nani: How do you know? (Laughter) Sadhguru: Just to freak you, he will do something. Just in reaction, even if you’re saying the best things,
he’s doing the opposite of it – just in reaction! So this is very, very important. This is not about giving freedom,
this is not about being strict. You just create an atmosphere where he’s naturally
looking up to you, he wants to be like you – in this if you fix yourself, everything is fine,
there’s very little parenting to do. It’s like see, even the chicken, ducks, tigers,
lions all of them have done this – if they walk, see how all the little ones are
walking behind… running behind them. Tch, they desperately want to be like their
mother or father, have you seen this? Your children should become like that. For that you need to work on yourself,
not on them (Applause). Nani: Listening to the answers feeling confident
that I’m asking good questions so, when I was a kid very, very supposed
to be popular astrologer came home and then he said “this guy has great fortune” Sadhguru: They say the same thing for everybody (Laughter). Nani: Same thing, I know, to everyone. I came to know this after discussing with
a few people, they’ve been told the same. So, when they said so first our people
had a doubt as to what is Rajayogam? If he dies one lakh people will attend to his last rites. Then I felt bad. Why after death? I felt what is the use of the number
of people coming behind me after death it should happen when I am alive. Left the topic there. But then as I grow when I was watching this,
generally in the industry, outside, everywhere Really if someone dies they become
very good, everyone become good. Every time a politician, or actor, or
somebody, in general also outside somebody dies and then they have
such good things to talk about them. Everybody says he’s a friend, he’s such a good guy. And sometimes I keep wondering, I wish these guys came back into life and
they heard all this and went back to die again. So why is this happening because,
suddenly everyone becomes so good. When cinema releases no one says he’s good actor
but after he dies they say he’s a very good actor So, why? What’s the reason? Sadhguru: Have dead people ever done
something wrong till now (Laughter)? Nani: Hmm? Sadhguru: Have dead people ever
done something wrong till now (Laughter)? Nani: Many are there but still people praise them also… Sadhguru: No, no, no. Nani: You mean after death?
Sadhguru: Yes.. Nani: No. Sadhguru: That’s the reason..
(Sadhguru laughs) (Laughter/Applause). Or is it due to the fear that he
may come back as a ghost? Sadhguru: Maybe my Telugu,
they did not understand (Laughs). Nani: He spoke very beautifully isn’t it? Give a round of applause for his Telugu. (Cheers/Applause) Sadhguru: People appreciate the dead, rightfully so
because no dead man has ever harmed anybody. No dead man has done anything wrong ever, except that
he smells if you don’t treat him well (Laughter)! That’s the only thing – you have to…
he demands attention, that you quickly dispose him. Otherwise he will make your life miserable. That’s the only thing, otherwise
he’s not done anything wrong. So people naturally praise a dead man. Having said that, it is also a civilizational aspect – a human aspect, that it doesn’t matter when you’re alive,
we may be running the same race, we may be fighting, we may be
elbowing each other, struggling looking at all negativities at each other,
but when mortality happens, when death happens, we keep all those differences aside and we bow down
and say whatever was good about you. They may talk about it,
nothing wrong with that, it’s good. Everywhere in the world, no matter
which culture it is, when somebody dies, very few people on the planet are so crude,
they will also disrespect the dead body – they will kick it around,
they will do horrible things to it, all this. Otherwise most human beings on this planet,
even if they fight war and they themselves killed them, once they die, they bow down because
you bow down to mortal nature of who we are. We know he may be dead, I may be standing,
but it’s just a question of time. It’s just a question of time! Apart from that, respecting the dead
is not necessarily exaggeration. In every human being, there’re pluses and minuses. Because both of you are running the same race, I highlighted your minuses all my life to put you down,
because I want to win the race. But, I’m sorry, I don’t want to
use that word with you – somebody died, now you talk about their pluses
because pluses were also there. Nani: Yeah, we haven’t spoken. Sadhguru: We haven’t spoken about it. If now also if you do not speak – even then you
want to speak minuses, I think that will be very crude. At least when somebody is dead, if you have
nothing plus to say, you become silent, otherwise the pluses that you did not say,
all these years, at least then you must say. Nani: I wish they said before,
but that doesn’t happen. Sadhguru: .That is… See that is true, I wish they had
said it all their life, that’s a different matter. But life doesn’t happen like that. Life is such that everything that you want,
somebody else also wants. There are so many things. There are so many dynamics of life. Not everybody is living in that level of maturity
– even if what I want somebody takes, I can be joyful and be here,
not everybody’s made like that. So they highlighted the minuses
because of the frictions. But once a person dies, this is not the time
to talk minuses, you highlight the pluses. But there are fools who are just exaggerating
everything, that’s a different matter. But this is a basic human decency
towards each other (Applause). Nani: Growing up, I never used to get to
listen to this word depression much – very, very rarely a word like a psychiatrist
or a depression or something. Now that we are all aware of that, then…
and people know that it’s a genuine issue and we talk a lot which is very good,
I understand completely. But then I also realize there’s
so much of talk happening. Almost every alternative person in some conversation we hear this depression word happening a lot nowadays. I am happy that the awareness has become more
but again at the same time, I am also realizing there are few people who suddenly might be
feeling a little low on particular day and they want to believe that it is depression. I know that depression is a very genuine serious
problem but because of this overexposure, is it a good thing or is it a bad thing? Is it really pushing the next generation into a, you know, thinking one any small hiccup also thinking that this might be something serious problem
and they giving into it (Applause)? Sadhguru: Oh, I didn’t know that
was a popular question (Laughter). With your question, you are getting into trouble. If I answer this, I will get into deeper trouble (Laughter). I have… Already last one year I’ve been in lot of trouble, because a whole lot of people are pursuing me
and saying, “He doesn’t respect depression. He is talking against it. He thinks it is not a medical issue.” Nani: No, I respect it, by the way.
I don’t want to be in trouble. But I genuinely believe it and but I just don’t know it’s… with… with few it… it’s just becoming too much. They’re talking so much about it that sometimes… sometimes people who are generally low
on a particular day also might feel… Sadhguru: Hey, don’t be… Nani: Ninety percent of the cases are…
maybe fair but sometimes (Sadhguru Laughs)… Sadhguru: He really plays it safe (Laughter/Applause). It is not that… I am not made like this, that if somebody is suffering,
I’ll mock them – that’s the last thing I’ll do in my life. But these days, it’s become an activism
about everything, not just one aspect. So, people are always looking for a cause in their life – any one word, something, without even understanding what is the context of that one word, simply they’ll gone on. So, let me tell you this. This depression issue came up… I just… It was a quote – a daily quote in which I said, “Whatever the nature of your ailment – physical, mental,
essentially the source is within you. Either your body has turned… turned against you
or your intelligence has turned against you.” This’s a fact! You can give it many names –
you can call it stress, anxiety, depression, this, that Something has turned against you – that is something
within yourself has turned against you. Some outside situations also may prompt you,
push you in that direction. But fundamentally if my intelligence was working for me,
I would definitely keep myself in the best possible way. If all the cells in my body were working for me,
will I make myself sick? So, this is all I said. A campaign ran for about six-eight months, all kinds of people commented,
“He doesn’t know what he’s talking, this, this.” I have spoken to top level people in this field across the world, all of them think what I am saying is perfectly fine. Whether… Even if I don’t get endorsements from them,
I know it’s perfectly fine because I know how my mind works. I know if I give myself the luxury,
I can also become depressed. Something doesn’t work my way – nothing actually
works my way, most of the time (Laughs), yes, I will tell you in more detail if we have time. Because when you do as many things as I do,
so many things don’t happen the way you want it. The reason why people have reduced their lives to a very
small scope is simply because they are afraid of failure. I know I will die a failure, but I’m a blissful failure.
So it doesn’t matter. Tch, my (Laughs)… You know in my life it’s so happened –
almost thirty-eight years ago, I was sitting in one place, suddenly every cell in my body burst into ecstasy. Then I observed what is happening within me. Then I realized after a few weeks, if I don’t
mess with my mind, I’ll burst with ecstasy. Then I thought “This is it,
I’ve discovered something fantastic!” On that day the world’s population
was 5.6 billion people. Then I sat down and made a plan that in next two-and-a-half years,
I will make the entire world ecstatic, tch (Applause). Hey, wait, wait, don’t clap at my failures (Laughter)! Now it is thirty-eight years.
Ah, we’ve touched a few million people. People say we have touched some five hundred–
six hundred million people (Applause), but that’s not my idea of the world. Now the population also has increased. I know I will die a failure. But I am not a depressed failure,
I am a blissful failure (Nani Laughs) (Applause). Now, why I’m saying this to you is, well, there are certain pathological issues
within the system – there are genetic issues, there are these chemistry issues, but for all this,
fundamentally the basic control for all this is within you. You have not taken charge of it, that is a clear factor. You are trying to manage an inner situation
by arranging an outer situation. But whoever the hell you are, you can never
arrange the outer situation just the way you want it. Does it ever happen? Does that ever happen to anybody? Nobody happens hundred percent your way, isn’t it? Not your husband, not your wife, not your
parents, not your children, not your friends, not your office – nobody happens one
hundred percent the way you want it. So, if you are going to freak every time when
something doesn’t happen the way you want it, then you will freak for the rest of your life. So if you see this, you would understand that
the source of all human experience is within you – including how your chemistry will slosh is within you. When somebody is ill,
are we going to talk all this to them? No. They need care, they need help, they need medicine,
they need compassion, that’s a different matter. But those of you who are healthy if you think – because right from childhood this comes – if you are sick you get attention, if you’re joyful,
you will get scolding – this must change in the society. Joy should get attention (Applause),
misery should not get attention. This is a very misunderstood way of handling things. If a child is jumping with joy and screaming,
“Hey why are you screaming (Gestures); if you ba, ba, ba like this (Gestures) means
mo, momo, mo (Gestures) (Laughter). It’s just a wrong way of raising a child because a child must understand he must invest
in being well, he must not invest in being unwell. Unwell will not bring any results or rewards to him,
he must understand this in a very deep way. If he thinks being unwell physically or mentally,
I will get lot of attention and rewards, he will work towards being unwell. This may look very simplistic, but I’m telling you this
from a very profound dimension of who we are. There is something called as life energy, as intelligence. Intelligence is not the bone box
(Referring to head) that you carry. If you, tch… See, does your avakkai (Referring to a variety
of mango used in pickles) look like you? Hello? Does it smell like you? Does it feel like you? No. If you mix only just chili and mango and rice and eat it,
it goes inside and becomes you, isn’t it? There is an intelligence within you which
can make this horribly spicy stuff into you. There is an intelligence or no? You eat a banana it becomes you. When there is such a dimension of intelligence
– from all kinds of nonsensical material that you give, it makes a human being –
if you have access to this intelligence, your well-being, your health, your mental
balance is in your hands or no? If you don’t take charge of this, then you’re
thinking it is all happening to you. So, a lot of people for ages,
especially in the last hundred years, because of psychiatry developing in a certain way, people started saying, “No, there is a
genetic things, you can’t touch it.” Well, now genetic sciences are telling you in twenty-four
hours you can change your genetic codes completely if you do the right things with yourself (Applause). You can change the genetic patterns of
who you are in a matter of twenty-hour hours, I can show this to you. People who go through certain types
of initiations and processes – twenty-four hours later you look at them,
their very face will look different. You cannot recognize them, they will become like that
because you can transcend your genetic limitation. In fact, this entire culture is about that,
spiritual process means that. See, when you are eighteen years of age,
you don’t want to be like your parents, “I want to be something different, this, that.” But you see the same person,
by the time you’re forty, forty-five you begin to walk like your mother,
talk like her, sit like her, stand like her, have you noticed this happening to you? Because the genetics are taking over. We call this traditionally as karma. Karma means past memory is ruling the present. If memory rules the present, if your memory structures
who you are, you have no life of your own, you’re just an extension, you are a recycle,
you are not a fresh life. Spiritual process means just this – that you want to
break away from the limits of your memory because – memory means there is evolutionary memory, there is atomic memory, there’s elemental memory, there is genetic memory, conscious-unconscious, articulate-inarticulate, there’re many kinds of memories – you want to transcend this
so that you become a fresh life. Your experience of life is completely fresh. Otherwise, you’re just a recycle of the past. Why same problems exist after hundred generations is
simply because nobody breaks the memory cycle. There is these words which are all misunderstood today,
there is something called as samsara. Samsara means – in Tamil it’s become samsara means wife (Laughs), because she keeps them on the rope and keeps them
run around – samsara means cyclical movement. That is everything that is physical in the existence
is in a cyclical movement. You take an atom, it is doing this (Gestures of cyclical movement); you take the planets, it is doing this; you take the galaxy, it’s doing this;
you take the whole cosmos, it is doing this – everything that’s physical is in cyclical movement. So, if your entire experience, particularly if your identity,
is completely rooted in your physicality, you will also be in a cyclical motion. If you want to break this, a dimension beyond physicality
has to come into your experience. If you touch beyond your physical nature,
then we are saying this is spiritual. You went to temple, church, mosque,
wherever – this is not spiritual. There you are going, what is the prayer about? What is the prayer about? “Dear God,
give me this, give me that, save me, protect me.” Hello? This is just survival outsourced (Laughter/Applause). So, if you want to break the cycle, then you have to touch a dimension
which is not physical in nature. Once you touch something that is not
physical in nature, there is no cyclical movement because you have become free
from all the memory bank that you have. So, whether you have chemical issues within you,
whether you have pathological issues, genetic issues, you can break away from that. Maybe certain people will need more striving,
certain people will come out more easily, that is always there, but for everybody there is a way. So, when I say all your ailments, if they are infections they are different; they come
from outside, it’s an invasion, you have to deal with it. But rest of the things, are manufactured within you. This is your cause, fundamentally, you have to see my physical health, my mental health is
my responsibility, one hundred percent. If you see this, then methods are available to come out. We have all the compassion. Because I want you to understand if you have a physical
ailment, you will get compassion from everybody; if you have a mental ailment,
you will get ridicule from everybody. So, particularly people who are suffering
any kind of mental ailments, depression, anxiety, whatever, they need
double the compassion that physical ailments need. But normally in societies they get ridicule,
because it is very difficult – it’s very difficult to decide whether this person
is really sick, or making it up, or they’re acting it up to get something out of me,
or what it is you can’t make out. One time it looks real, another time
it looks like it’s made up. So unfortunately, both for the one who is suffering and
those who live around them, it is a constant struggle. But the most fundamental thing is – whoever you are,
whatever condition you are, first and foremost thing to understand is
physical and mental health is my responsibility. It can go out of hand, it’s always there. Whatever we do we may die, whatever we do
we may become sick, that’s a different matter; but it is our responsibility – If you see this, there is a way to touch the very source
of creation which is throbbing within you. When the source of creation,
which made this entire complex body out of avakkai and chintha thokku (Referring to a pickle made out of tamarind) (Laughter) – when it can do this,
it can also do some repair job, isn’t it? Hello? One who manufactures the whole thing,
can’t he do some repair job? You have lost access to it. You think for everything there’s a solution outside. Yes, when we need help, we will take help. When… If things have gone out of control,
we seek help from outside. But fundamental thing is to take responsibility. Today, genetic sciences, neurosciences and
also psychiatrists are beginning to speak that whatever the condition, it is possible
to alter this from within – only thing is “how?” There are many ways for “how” – yoga is a technology. Yoga does not mean twisting and
turning your body as most people are doing, it is a technology of taking charge of this
(Referring to the body). One thing is very clear, even if you go to the doctor,
they’re only giving you a pill, isn’t it? What is a pill or a tablet – just a certain amount of chemicals. If you put this chemicals,
it lifts you out of your depression, it makes your anxiety go a little bit – it may not
permanently go, at least for those few hours it’s down. So, essentially human experience has a chemical basis – your joy is a certain kind of chemistry,
your misery is a certain kind of chemistry, anxiety is one kind of chemistry, tranquility is another
kind of chemistry, ecstasy is one kind of chemistry, agony is another kind of chemistry. All human experience has a chemical basis to it. This (Referring to the human body) is the
greatest chemical factory on the planet – most complex and sophisticated
chemical factory on the planet. The question is only, are you a great CEO or a lousy CEO? That’s all the question is. That may sound brutal when you’re sick. When you’re sick, there is compassion, but
when you’re well, you must take responsibility for this. Otherwise, you will make yourself sick. Everybody has an excuse as to “why I should
not get up from my bed and cry in my bed.” Everybody has some reason, isn’t it? Hello? Yes or no. Participants: Yes. Sadhguru: Everybody has some pain,
somewhere, about something – somebody died, somebody did not… is… somebody is born, somebody is not born, all kinds of things. There is no human being who doesn’t have a reason
to push themselves into some kind of mental dip. Everybody has or not? There is a reason. Some people get there, some people don’t get there.
Is it always intentional? No. But there is an inner intent, that intent
may not be a conscious intent – there is a chemical intent, there is genetic intent. Your aunt was depressed; now, you don’t know why you are fine and suddenly
you’re depressed because there is a genetic intent. But this intent can be altered
if you take charge of yourself (Applause). Nani: You would have heard about this word déjà vu. All of you might have felt the same right? Here and there when we see something it feels like
it has happened the same way in the past also. So I always strongly… Sadhguru: In your movies these kind of things happens,
right? Same scene you will repeat again? (Laughter) Nani: No, that.. it’s called some loop effect,
there are some four or five films made. Keeps repeating itself. But in life I’ve felt strongly few times. I know it’s not possible but
I saw something and I thought, exactly same thing happened the same way before also.
Why is it so? What do you think? Sadhguru: Bad direcion, same scene repeats (Laughter) Nani: Who’s the director? God, ah? It’s just some.. Is it one small glistch or problem
in our mind or is there back story behind this? Sadhguru: There are many dimensions to it but one thing
is most people are afraid of anything that’s unfamiliar. They have a fear of unfamiliar, so they have set up a mechanism within themselves –
they’re looking for the familiar. Either they will do what you said just now,
I have seen this somewhere. Otherwise they look some… look at somebody
and say, “Oh, she looks just like my sister.” She doesn’t look like your sister (Laughter), but you know, just the same two eyes,
one nose, one mouth, just like her (Laughs) – like this, they will find reasons because
they’re looking for something familiar. This usually happens to people,
when they’re in that phase of their life, when they’re not able to figure out
what is happening with their life, or they’re in a new space where
they don’t know anything about it, suddenly they will invent things
that from somewhere else “This person looks like my grandfather, that person
looks my like my uncle, this person like this. Oh this tree, I’ve seen it somewhere” – even that same damn tree, never looked
the way it looked on that day, I want you to know. Hello? Even that tree, if you’ve seen it earlier,
it won’t be the same. Day-to-day it is changing, isn’t it? Day-to-day everybody’s changing or not? Hmm? So… But is it possible that somebody can revisit something? They can, but ninety-nine percent of the time, it is not so;
they’re looking for something familiar (Applause). Nani: This… Okay. Okay, so audience if you have any questions?. I have many but I will give the chances to you. How this selection process happens,
whom should I give the mike? Participant 1: Here.. Nani: Okay.. Participant 1: So namaskaram Sadhguru, so I’m not sure if you have heard of the TV series called “Sacred Games” it’s very famous or unfamous. It is a lot of sexual and violence content in it. So what do you think – art and entertainment
should be given that much of space? Or it is disturbing to know that TV series like these
are very famous and popular in today’s generation (Applause). Sadhguru: If I understand the question right, you’re asking why something that depicts so much violence and sexuality – why is it popular or
why should we allow it to happen – is this the question? Participant 1: Yeah. Or it should be allowed
in art as in it’s okay to be there? Sadhguru: See the dangers of this,
even addressing this question is (Laughter) – no, if you address this question, immediately some people think their own ideas of
what’s right and wrong can be imposed on other people, which will not work – in a free society it will not work. At the same time is violence – extreme violence
in movies and very gross ways of… Usually sexuality means, generally a woman
is being treated in a… not-necessarily a nice way. I remember in the ’70s there were movies
– Hindi movies, I did not see most of them, but people used to tell me that there were
some actors who are called rape specialists. Nani: Hindi? Sadhguru: Yeah in Hindi. So in every movie, there has to be one rape. It became almost like a standard for some time. So all those people who saw those movies as children – because there was no adult certification for that, anybody could go and watch it, they thought this is the way to treat a woman. Now when rape happens on the street,
why are you surprised, I’m asking? We have cultivated them. All said and done, a cinema
may be a commercial enterprise, but it has a profound impact in a society like this. See in certain other countries, people watch
the movie, go home, forget about it. Here it’s not like that, we even elect them
(Laughter/Applause). Because a cinema is not a cinema;
cinema is more than reality in this country. So when it is like that, I think it should
be conducted more responsibly (Applause). (Applause) What is it that we’re trying to create? If you try to control it from outside, it will become ugly. If people use just about anything and everything
to make money at the cost of the society, that is definitely ugly. So I don’t know what this television serial is,
because I never get the time to look at that place. Whatever it is, I don’t know in what context, see there is violence in the society –
you don’t have to hide it, you can show it; there is sexuality in the society –
you don’t have to hide it, you can show it. But are you glorifying it? Or are you showing it
in a way that people say, “This is not the way.” You showed rape because it’s happened. When people see it, they must say, “This is not the way.” If they think, “Wow, this is the way,”
then what kind of society are you creating (Applause)? So, many times this has come to me in various
different forms – this kind of question. I think people are hiding behind art,
I’m sorry, if I say anything wrong. Nani: No, no. Sadhguru: People are hiding behind the term art. If it is art, it should not be so commercial. You’re doing commerce and you’re calling it art (Applause). There may be some artistry involved in it,
we appreciate that. But there was a time when we were growing up, there
were art movies, and there were commercial movies; now there is no such thing,
commercial movies are arts. So, commercial movies are made
essentially to make money – somebody’s investing to make money,
nothing wrong with commerce. Because… Nothing wrong with commerce –
nation’s commerce has to develop in all levels. So entertainment is also commerce, it’s fine. If it is commerce, then it must be controlled. There must be proper… For every commerce, there is a certain
amount of control, isn’t it, in a society? In this society though, today everybody, at least
a lot of big percentage of population is drinking, still we are holding on to it,
that you cannot advertise alcohol. They will show an alcohol bottle
and say CDs and music (Laughter). Yes or no (Laughs)? Nani: Sparkle water. Sparkling water. Sadhguru: Sparkling water, that is okay, but CD and
music – how does it come, I don’t know (Applause). Anyway, I’m saying when we see it is going to
influence the society in a big way there are controls. So, if… if something is going to impact the society,
there must be some sort of control. It is best the self-control is self-imposed,
rather than a government agency imposing it, because then it’ll become something else – very ugly it’ll
become, somebody who doesn’t know anything about it. It is not about deciding what people
should see and should not see. It is about “Where do we want to drive the society?” Right now more than… I don’t know about this television serial, I’m continuously speaking about all the –
what are these – video games. A five year old child enjoys shooting people. That’s the only thing he plays – he enjoys shooting
people, shooting people, shooting people on the screen. It’s quite good, because it doesn’t spill blood anywhere.
It’s okay – there it spills, but it’s okay. Now when he becomes eighteen,
doesn’t he want to get little real? Hello? Participants: Yes Sadhguru: In United States these
school shootings are happening. People think it’s an American phenomena. No, no, no. If there were guns in Indian homes, it will happen. Hello? You think it won’t happen? In America, in every home,
there’s more than one weapon, all right? In almost every home, there is more than one weapon – minimum, there is at least a shotgun and a handgun, for sure. Nani: And we have toy guns for kids. Sadhguru: Not that. I’m saying real… real firearms. So there is access. So it is only happening in America. But if there were weapons in Indian homes,
even here kids would be shooting each other for sure. When emotion’s fired up, you want to shoot, isn’t it? So from the age of four, five
if you’re practicing how to shoot people, when you become sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
don’t you want to get real? Don’t you want to see some real blood? I don’t see what’s wrong. If you’re cultivating your children
to do this on the screen continuously, what is the problem for you if he gets real? Or if his friend gets real and he shoots your child,
what is the problem I’m asking? Because you must understand certain actions
have certain consequences. This must be handled responsibly by people
who’re creating those things. If you bring laws for everything,
then society becomes ugly. Government cannot manage these things;
people should manage these things. So if somebody makes such a thing,
people should not go and watch it. But no, they all want to go and see. So somewhere they enjoy it, isn’t it? Tch, today you see any of the Hollywood movies,
it’s not like before – before also they were shooting, but now it comes – the bullet enters and
the brains splash and there is a rerun; again it comes in slow-motion and splashes
all over the place – people are enjoying it! Once you enjoy these things,
then violence is inevitable on the street. It’s just a question of graduation, isn’t it? So what kind of society we want to create? All those people who influence the society in a big way, whether artists, politicians, media people, spiritual leaders, religious leaders – whoever has influence over people, they must look into themselves and see
“What is the consequence of our actions?” This much responsibility must come (Applause)! Participant 3: Sadhguru! Here.. Sadhguru: Whoa, whoa (Laughter)!
How did you grab the microphone? Participant 3: I have a question. My previous generation – my fathers are farmers, but they made me an engineer because
they couldn’t able to survive from their land. So the complete generation of my five fathers
has converted to engineers or some other works. So entire farming is vanished there. I’m interested to do farming, but because
of the survival problem, I came to an engineering. So how I have to overcome this process? Sadhguru: Okay (Applause). Anyway we would like to have a well-studied engineer,
not an engineer who’s converted (Laughter). I don’t know what that means. How do you get converted to engineering? Anyway, I understand what you’re saying. See, this is a major tragedy unfolding in the country. Out of one-hundred-and-sixty-million
hectares of arable land in this country, one-hundred-and-four-million hectares of land –
the soil is right now labeled as distressed, that means nearly sixty percent
of our soil is moving towards becoming uncultivable in a matter of anywhere
between fifteen to forty years’ time. In forty years’ time, the fertile lands
that you have seen will turn into uncultivable land – maximum forty years’ time,
anywhere between now to then. How does this happen? If you want the soil to be rich… Before we go into that, I want you to first understand, what is sitting here as you and me is just the soil
that you walk upon – it’s just a piece of the planet. If the soil is weak, the food becomes weak;
the food is weak – our very genetics become weak, there’s substantial studies about this. So if… Why has the soil become weak? Why such a phenomena is happening in this country? The only way you can put back organic content into the
soil is by the leaves of the trees and the animal waste. Trees are gone long time ago –
just to tell you to what extent, in the Ganga basin, which accounts for twenty-five percent of India’s geography and thirty-three percent of India’s agriculture, we have removed ninety-two percent
of green cover in the last fifty years. Ninety-two percent! What is our plan for this land? In Cauvery basin, which is some 83,000 square
kilometers – right now we’re running a campaign called Cauvery Calling, all of you must
be a part of it one way or the other – in Cauvery in the last fifty years, we have
removed eighty-seven percent of the green cover. So no leaves, no trees, no leaves,
animals are all traveling abroad. How will you enrich the soil? The food that you’re eating is just the soil. You ate it up. What did you put back? Nothing! By throwing chemicals, you think it’ll happen? Pretentious agriculture is happening. If we don’t change this, whatever other
aspirations we have, everything will fail. Doesn’t matter what business, industry,
what you develop, we’ll have serious issues. People think water is the issue.
Water is not the issue; soil is the issue. If soil is rich, there will be enough water. The reason why agriculture is suffering is
– this is one aspect; the other reason is why… At the time of independence, over ninety-two percent
of Indian population was in agriculture. If you look back and see two-hundred-and-fifty
years ago, we were the largest economy on the planet. We were the biggest exporters – thirty-three
percent of the world’s export came from India two-hundred-and-fifty years ago. So what were we exporting? Were we exporting rice? No. Were we exporting agricultural produce? No. What were we exporting? We were exporting largely spices –
more than that, textiles. Andhra Pradesh – every district has a weave of its own. Yes? Textiles was the main thing. Between 1800 and 1860, when the English decided to destroy the textiles of this
nation, systematically they went about destroying it – from 1800 to 1860, our exports
came down by ninety-six percent. So that doesn’t happen just like that.
That was done as a systematic process. So when this destruction of industry happened,
millions of people died in those sixty years, where one of the British Governor Generals
writes back, saying “the fields of India are bleached
with the bones of the weavers.” Millions! It is estimated over three-and-a-half million to four million people died in those sixty years, out of starvation; the rest desperately went about doing
some kind of subsistence agriculture. Subsistence agriculture means, I have a piece of land, I will grow little rice, little dal, little this, little that – everything that I need for a family, I will scratch the land and grow. This sort of agriculture happened. This is why ninety-two percent or ninety-six…
ninety-two percent were in agriculture. Today this number has come down to sixty-five percent –
thanks to you, you became converted engineer, sixty-five to seventy percent are still in agriculture. What this means is, for ten people to eat – we want
ten people to eat, but now seven of them are cooking. You think this’s a good use of people? Ten people want to eat, very efficient one person
can cook – don’t want – two or three people can cook. Seven people cooking for ten people
is not a wise way to do things. But that’s where we are right now –
still seven people are cooking for ten people. So, you and more people must become engineers
– it is good or whatever else they have to become. But at the same time, can you let the agriculture die? Because today, if you make a survey – we have made some surveys, not official surveys
but generally we’ve just asked around – if you ask around how many farmers want their children
to go back to farming – less than two percent. This means in another twenty-twenty-five years
when this generation passes, we will not know how to grow food. You may think the farmer looks illiterate. He’s not dressed like you;
he doesn’t look like you; he looks like no good. But I’ll do one thing for you – you are from the farming family, those of you,
for two generations who lived in city, you have MBA, even if you have agricultural MSc,
you come I’ll give you ten acres fertile land, five different crops, you grow it
by yourself without taking local help. You will see you can’t do it, because this
intrinsic knowledge that our farmer has – this is one of the most fantastic things that
India has done is, of the many things – well, we have gone… we’re going to the moon,
we’ve gone to Mangalyan, all kinds of things, businesses have done great things,
science has done many things – but the most fantastic thing is without any science – of any… modern science, without any new technology, just with traditional knowledge, our farmers have fed
one billion people! This is not a small thing. (Applause) So this transition from farming to other things,
should not happen out of desperation – should happen as a good plan to do. Right now one reason why farming is not succeeding is
soil is weak, so water is scarce; another thing is scale is too small to make it successful. The average land holding is one hectare, that means
two-and-a-quarter acres per family is what we have. At this level of holding whatever you do is going
to be waste. Everybody is under loan, okay. Some… Some seventy-eight percent of Tamil Nadu’s
farmers are under debt. Because… I’ll just tell you an example. A young farmer in our region – it’s very fertile region, he has three-and-a-half acres. So I meet him and asked him, “What are you doing for your water?
What’s your water source?” He says he’s put nine bore-wells. In three-and-a-half acres, he’s put nine bore-wells, because there are bore-well companies
which will come and promise, “If you put it here more water will come,
if you put it there more water will come.” Everybody’s hitting bore-wells and bore-wells. In three-and-a-half acres, maybe there is one or two
sources, or maybe there is no source of water. Because the scale is so small, everybody’s putting a fence, everybody has a bore-well,
everybody has an electric connection. This is not going to work. We need the scale, otherwise it’ll not work. Does it mean to say we have to take their land? No. For this, we have worked out a system,
I don’t want to go into all the details in this, but this is what Rally for Rivers was about – how to integrate irrigation and marketing
for the farmer so that his life can change. Now, one more big thing is, see India – the latitudinal spread that you
have from Kanyakumari to Himalayas – twelve months of the year you can crop. There are very few nations where you
can grow crops twelve months of the year. From Kanyakumari to Himalayas, you can grow
literally almost anything you want in the world. If we handle this land right, we can provide food for
the entire world, it’s possible to do that (Applause). And this is the only nation – this is the only nation where sixty-five to seventy percent of the
population knows how to do this magic of transforming mud into food,
it is not a small thing (Applause)! We could use that knowledge,
we could use that capability, or we could make them destitute and come to cities and live in slums without any dignity, without any life to live, without any productivity, getting into crime. You became an engineer, I’m glad; many farmers’
children join crime or other kinds of things because they have no other option. So, this needs to be addressed. So, one of the things is, we have converted
literally over 69,670 farmers in Tamil Nadu from regular farming to what is called as agroforestry. Their incomes have gone up five to ten times
in a matter of eight to ten years (Applause). This is what… This is what we are calling as the Cauvery Calling
for the Cauvery belt… Cauvery basin area, because if you do this – we want to convert one-third
of the Cauvery basin into agroforestry – if you do this, the forty-six percent depletion that’s
happened in the river waters will come back. River will flow once again;
farmers will be rich and well-to-do; all this debt that is there in the banks will not happen,
because farmer will be rich by his own resource. This has to be done in a planned way,
we must execute this. Otherwise this nation is not… is sitting on
too many problems and too many possibilities also, but to convert problems into possibilities, every citizen has to stand up
and do what needs to be done (Applause). Participant 4: Namaskaram Sadhguru. Sadhguru: Where are you? Participant 4: Sadhguru, here. Sadhguru: Okay! Participant 4: When a movie is made
the idea and the story is… Sadhguru: The question for him? Participant 4: (Laughs) No, Sadhguru, it’s for you. The idea and the story is developed to make it
more popular on commercial factors. It developed on commercial factors to make it
more popular, to reach more number of people. Can we use cinema to spread the spiritual methods to large number of people through
commercial and popular ways? Can you give some direction towards it (Applause)? Nani: Are you asking can we make movie on this? Participant 4: To spread the spiritual methods is… I mean how do we use cinema to take the spiritual
methods more to the… to more make it more popular? Nani: Yeah, can be made, can be made awesomely. Set expectations should not exist to this much collection should happen this weekend there should be no such thing. Can be made awesomely but should not talk about collection later. Sadhguru: Hmm? Nani: We can make definitely but should not ask about it’s reach else there should be patience if really it has to reach people and if all should come, yeah. But do you want the cinema to be like a story? Participant 4: Yeah, yes. Nani: Hanh? Participant 4: Yes. Nani: It can be done. We can incorporate. Many many good things we keep embedding in movies. It may not be possible, sometimes. Participant 4: Sadhguru,
can you give some direction on this?.. Nani: She wants answer only from you. Sadhguru: He’s the director, he’s the actor. Okay, anyway, see.. Cinema means you’re thinking
n terms of the big screen. Well, it’s not that it’s not a possibility, the question is who will go and watch it (Laughs)! It has to be commercially successful. Commercial success means
people watched it, all right? This happened. This is about nine, ten years ago maybe now. I was in United States and I was talking to somebody
who’s some kind of an expert on internet affairs. So I never get to go on the net and browse this and that,
I never have the time to do those things. So I asked him, “What are people looking for?
Everybody’s looking at their screen. What are they looking for?” Very casually – very, very casually, as a matter of fact, he said, “Sadhguru, about seventy percent
of the data is pornography.” I said, “What?” He said, “Yes.” I said, “I don’t want to believe this kind of nonsense. Seventy percent – is it pornography? It’s not possible.” Then I checked with a few other people, they all say, “Yeah, it’s around that much,
maybe sixty-five – seventy something.” And what else are they using this for? There are many other things,
drug sales, arm sales, all kinds. More than anything what really
kind of brought disgust to me was, 1.6 million children below fifteen years of age
are sold on the internet every year. When we sell our children, as human beings
we’ve hit the bottom – there’s no further down to go. Hmm? When we start selling our children to be used in all
kinds of slavery, this means we’ve hit the very bottom. There’s no further place to go, isn’t it? That is when I decided, then let me get on the net. So in the last ten years, we’ve run a campaign
that many of you in the upper regions might have suffered this, even if you’re watching
pornography in between Sadhguru appears – Inner Engineering (Laughter/Applause). I’m saying this with some glee, because when such a phenomenal technology
is available to us, is this what we do? See, many great beings have come on this planet, but
when they came, if they spoke hardly ten people heard. In that ten people, all kinds of things. Today is the first time you can sit here
and talk to the entire world. When there is such a tool in our hands,
if we don’t transform humanity now, that means we have no intention at all, isn’t it? So your question is very relevant. But, will our natural star make a movie on spirituality? Nani: Biopic Sadhguru
(Cheers/Applause) (Sadhguru laughs). He will give a guest appearance in the
last scene of the movie. Is this okay? Sadhguru: So if definitely every medium that we have,
not necessarily a spiritual process, every medium that we have of communication
must be used to transform human beings, because that’s the only problem that
you have on this planet – human beings! There is no other problem. Hello? Yes or no? Participants: Yes Sadhguru: That’s the only problem. So, when there is such a powerful
means of communication today, technology is available to touch every human being
in whichever part of the world he or she is living. When this possibility is there,
this is the time to transform humanity (Applause). Participant 5: Namaskaram Sadhguru! Here Sadhguru, in the front, to your left. Namaskaram. Sadhguru, I would like to know how realized beings –
only some of them become gods and others don’t. Is there any science behind it or
do they come with any predetermined… Sadhguru: No, they just have to die (Laughter). Participant 5: For example, after Gautama
so many would have come but I think only you are doing such phenomenal things
on this planet (Applause). Sadhguru: What are you trying to tell me (Laughter)? Participant 5: I’m saying only you – you are likely to be
the next God but then a… already you’re a god now. But I’m saying why only you? For example, in these thirty years, so many disciples,
so many people you have cultivated. Would you make one of them as capable as you? In the days to come, in the years to come can we see
one of your disciples as Sadhguru (Applause)? (Sadhguru Laughs)… Sadhguru: Gautama became a Buddha,
did not become a god. Buddha means one who is a dada over his buddhi. One is… One who has total mastery over his buddhi
is a Buddha. One who has no mastery over his buddhi is
a monkey – compulsive, so many things. Tell me what is it human beings are suffering
– their own intelligence, isn’t it? If you take away half their brain, they will sit peacefully. So they don’t know how to handle
their own intelligence, that’s all they’re. So, in this where does God come from? You must understand, this is a godless culture. Please listen to me carefully, this is a godless culture –
there is no the God in this culture ever. This is the culture where we always told you,
“Your life is your karma.” Did we or not? Hmm? What does it mean? Karma means action. When you say my life is my karma, it means
you are saying, “My life is my making, whether I’m making it unconsciously or consciously” (Applause). This is not a culture to look up,
this is a culture to look in. This is not a culture where you want
to go and sit in God’s lap. Here this is a culture which does not value God more
than freedom, because mukti was our highest goal, moksha was our highest goal, not God, isn’t it? Now imported ideas you’ve got. See, they all know what is God, what is heaven,
the geography of heaven – they know the entire details. In this culture, we still don’t know who we are, we’re asking, “Who am I?” This is the most profound question (Laughs). The best thing about being a Hindu is
you’re confused (Laughter/Applause). Yes, it’s very good (Applause) because this’s a geographical identity, this is not a religious identity which builds you
confidence “I know this God is with me.” There’s no such thing here. You don’t even know who you are,
so you are a natural seeker. Once you don’t know, once you realize you do not know,
we can try and experiment with you. Suppose I ask you to walk from there to there
now, you will walk very self-conscious, what… how others are looking at you, this, that
– (Gestures) walk like this. Suppose we turn off the lights and make it
pitch dark, now I ask you to walk from there to there, you will become super alert, isn’t
it? Hello? The moment you don’t know what is the next
step do you become super alert or no? Some of you who do not know how to be alert
will start imagining things and create fear. Otherwise, it’s natural to become super alert,
isn’t it? So, this is what it means. This is called as the intelligence of ignorance. If you identify yourself with your knowledge
which is all rubbish, whatever knowledge you have – if you identify with your knowledge,
even if you know the libraries of this world, still compared to this cosmic space, your
knowledge is miniscule, isn’t it? Hmm? Is it miniscule or no? You may have ten PhDs, still what you know
is a miniscule. If you identify with a miniscule you become
a miniscule. But our ignorance is boundless. Hello? Our ignorance is limitless, isn’t it? If you identify with your ignorance, you are
limitless. Once you identify with your ignorance, your
intelligence will never sleep. Even if your body sleeps, your intelligence
is always awake standing, then we say you’re awakened (Applause). So, in this culture, because it’s a godless
culture, when we find a human being, who… who is accomplished in a way that you can…
cannot believe a human being can do these things, then we say he’s a deva or he’s a
deity. So we say somebody’s awakened because he
is able to see and do things that you are not able to do. You naturally look up to him, so we make him
like a deity. This – the word God comes from outside. We don’t have a word for God, please see this
– we call it a Murthy, we call it a yantra, we call it by different names. It’s very appropriate in this culture, people
are referring to Tendulkar as cricketing God. It’s not wrong. When we find somebody is accomplishing something
that seems above what is human capability – what we think is human capability, then
we look up to him as an accomplished being. There are words for this. But now because we’ve gotten into Western
ways and we are speaking in English language, we are using the word God. Otherwise, we called him a Mahatma, we called
him a Mahanubhava, you know, these kind of words, just to say it is an extraordinary
being. And that extraordinary being became the aspiration
of every… everybody else in that society. Out of our love, out of our respect, we may
put some flowers, we may do something, but you must understand we are aspiring to be
like him. We are not there to go and sit on his lap
in heaven – this is not the aspiration in this culture. Always the aspiration is this – you must understand,
this is something this’s all gone crazy now, there is no worship here, there is no prayer
here, there is only Darshan. Darshan means you behold a form, which you
think is higher than you and you want to take it into your heart, make that a part of yourself
– that is what Darshan means. You go to temple, not to pray – darshan, just
to see. Nothing need to happen, nothing to talk, nothing
to tell him, no appeal – just to see. But because we’ve gotten so westernized, we’re
doing all that. Because they’re saying, they’re talking to
their God and their God is talking to them, now we (are?) also pretending he’s also talking
to us (Laughter). We don’t want to be left out. No, you’re supposed to just behold. That’s all, darshan is the only thing you
do. No prayer! So this is a hodgepodge thing, so you’re saying
this. Gautama did not become a god, people are aspiring
to become a Buddha. So you think, all the people around me are
such dumb idiots – nobody is working to become whatever they see as Sadhguru? You think nobody’s working? They are. There are… Because we are touching millions of people
– nearing a billion now, because of this, some people just watching YouTube and they
think they’re doing well, some people are on daily quote (Referring to Daily Mystic
Quotes) and they think they’re doing well, some people have done Inner Engineering and
they think something is happening. So what is the difference between an established
process – actually something that you have to do with yourself, like Inner Engineering
or further programs and just watching talks or even being here is – one is titillation,
another is transformation. Titillation means you know what? Tch, it’s entertainment – spiritual entertainment. Little – maybe the way you think and feel
you change a little bit. This is not transformation, this is a little
change. It might help you, I’m not saying it doesn’t
help. It helps, but there is no transformation. Transformation means, you as an individual
is a form – this form should transform. If that has to happen, something more profound
has to be done. We are seeing… We’re looking for sponsors and other things
– if it comes through in the next few months, we may roll out Inner Engineering programs
free of cost (Cheers/Applause) People… People are telling me, “Sadhguru you will
have to file for blank… bankruptcy.” Such a thing will not happen. I’m sure people have enough sense when they
see some value, they will respond in their own way and contribute in their own way to
keep it going for others. So we will make it like this – for you it
is free, if you want another person to take it, pay something for the costs (Applause). Nani: One last question. Participant 6: Namaskaram Sadhguru. So… So we have an Indian tradition of like, going
to priest for a baby’s name. So… And also when people start believing in some
other religion, they change their name. So I have this question that has a person’s
name, like… does a person’s name have an influence on what he becomes? Sadhguru: It depends who that person is. It is just that when we name our children,
we want to name something pleasant or inspiring. The official name – we want it to be inspiring;
the pet name at home – we want it to be pleasant and sweet. Tch, this is a natural thing. Why we want it to be inspiring is, when we
utter… anybody who utters his or her name should feel something, because your name has
not only impact on you, it has impact on others, because they are the people who say the name
most of the time, not you. You don’t go on chanting your name, its other
people, who say the name. So it must have a good impact on them, when
they utter the name. There is something called as sound. There is sound? Hello? Participants: Yes. Sadhguru: The existence has sound, words are
created by us. When I say a word, when you give a meaning
to a sound, it becomes a word. If I say “boom,” if you give a meaning
to that, it becomes a word, isn’t it? But “boom” is just a sound, so sound exists. Today modern science is telling you, everything
in the universe, including your body, the planet, the solar system, the galaxies – everything,
if you look profoundly enough, there is no physical matter, it is just a reverberation
– vibration. Where there is a vibration, there is bound
to be a sound. The question is only, is it within your hearing
range or not? Some sounds are in your hearing range, rest
are not in your hearing range. Otherwise, this whole creation right now is
making a humongous amount of sound. You don’t hear it, because your hearing range
is within a certain frequency band. So, every sound that you utter has a reverberation. A reverberation can either have a positive
impact or a negative impact. So in this culture, we looked very profoundly
and looked at what kind of sounds you must utter for your child. But today, you’re calling them Cuckoo, Bobo,
Momo. Nani: Nani (Laughter) Sadhguru: I didn’t realize that (Nani Laughs)! So Cuckoo, Bobo, Nani, at home – at home it’s
nice. But now that he’s at home everywhere in the
world, everybody calls him “Nani” (Cheers/Applause), that’s a different matter. But the idea of giving profound names is,
it is for the sound structure of that name – when you utter that sound, there must be
a reverberation which enhances who I am and also for the people who utter that. All kinds of very… For a foreign tongue very difficult sounding
names, but profound impact. So sound and reverberations have impact. If there is somebody who’s conscious… Even today, I think I’m giving names to thousands
of children every day, depending upon the time date and their birth and looking at their
picture, we give a certain kind of name, which fits that child, somewhere close around that. So this, different people were doing at different
times, but everything – everything thsi… there is distortion. About everything there is distortion! Now, before the child is born, they’ve chosen
the name because – something else, they want to call him Johnny Walker because they like
the drink (Laughter). (Laughs) So, times are changing, but the existence
has not changed. Only the social times are changing, existentially
nothing has changed – reverberations are reverberations; what has impact on you, has impact on you
– positive impact, negative impact is there in the world. Is it a deciding factor? No. You can have any kind of name and still live
well, but we’re trying to use every kind of support that we have. Why not? Hmm? Every little support becomes valuable, when
difficult times come, isn’t it? If your name is Shiva, tch, every day we have
to utter the name Shiva, Shiva, Shiva. Even if we are not thinking of that one, just
looking at you we are saying Shiva. Even our dogs were named like this. Only today, because of the English people,
lot of people think – in every family I see, it’s just crazy – they have all Indian names,
but the dogs have always foreign names (Laughter). This is because, this whole having a dog as
a pet came from the English people, because they were feeling lonely away from their homes,
they loved their dog – Cuckoo, Booboo, Moomoo, momo, all that. We had dogs, cows, animals in the house. Nani: I have one, Guruji. His name is Subramaniam (Laughter). It’s a Beagle, Subbu. I did a film called ___ (Unclear), so we named
him Subramaniam. Sadhguru: Subramaniam is a good name (Laughter). (Laughs) So we named everything like that,
because we have to utter it every day. One way or the other, we somehow utter sounds
which are beneficial to us. Thank you very much (Applause)! Because this question – agriculture was asked
and there is a concern everywhere – Chennai has gone dry, next they’re saying Bangalore
will go dry, Hyderabad is standing in the queue – I want all of you who are here today,
if you are a concerned citizen of this country, in some way please participate in Cauvery
Calling. We will give out a call – how to participate. There will be… This is a more action-oriented thing than
Rally for Rivers, because here we want to plan… to make one-third of Cauvery basin
green once again ,we need to plant 242 crore trees. This is not like… (Applause) This is not like, we are going
to go and physically plant everything. This will be done on farmers’ land by them,
but we have to support it. So we are looking at raising super large nurseries. Right now, we have over twenty-four nurseries
across Tamil Nadu. Now we’re seeing how to build these nurseries
in Karnataka also. So there is room, we will start a campaign
– ‘at least plant one tree’ for each one of you, if you’re for four people in the
family, plant four trees. It will be a minimum amount of just raising
the nursery kind of cost, not a very big cost. So you don’t have to plant just one and you
might have a tree, to sit under like Gautama, the Buddha. It may work (Applause)! Nani: ___ (Unclear) Sadhguru: ____ (Unclear) you want to say something? Please. Nani: Yeah. I just wanted to say, I just told a few of
my friends that, “I’m going to meet Sadhguru,” Sadhguru, so I thought they will a…tell
me to take blessings, or you know, they’ll tell me questions, what to ask. But you know what they said? They said, “Give him a hug man” they said. ___ (Unclear) Sadhguru: This is a trick. Nani: No, no, no
Sadhguru: This is a trick (Laughter/Applause)! Nani: That’s how they look at you. Yeah… Sadhguru: That’s good. Speaker: We hope you enjoyed the session,
as much as we enjoyed bringing it to you. We thank Nani and Sadhguru for this candid
and most insightful exploration. We also take a moment to express our gratitude
to the stadium authorities, the police department, the traffic department, the electricity department,
all the volunteers and each one of you for this wonderful evening. Thank you (Applause)!

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  1. Yes because These kind of discussing topic then sure many more people watch good topic instead of wrong topic. So Explore more and more but cant say somebody GOD. we need to know by ourself as sadguru said. Love India

  2. Fear of unfamiliar it's the same thing which is told in BATMAN BEGINS no doubt one of the best movie ever.

    Even criminals like Falcone teach you a lot.

  3. Kumar mama naksh vro boy cut girl, vro security personnel , main gate security, outside canteen… Mr ellil Bhai, Bharat, karthi, .. List goes on and on and on … If it can happen to one person it can happen to anyone… These people don't know a thing about what it means to face this stigma… They don't know what it takes to come out of it completely they don't have a clue as to how horrible life can turn… what all you have done it will come back round to u … It's not my wish it's the way life is as explained by Sadhguru himself.

  4. i am ritik from himachal pradesh and i think sadhguru should come here and teach all about adiyoge because there is no one to teach us yog

  5. Every single boy
    As mom and dad "son"
    If the friend wants to succeed in love
    ( girl × boy = love )
    When everyone thinks so, magic is created
    Everyone who tries this will be a hero.
    Others will be lovers
    Only for the young people who build
    Brindavanam ( "che" guevar )

  6. We still have people here in India who just keep on opposing Sadhguru! I just feel pity for them.
    For eg. JOE
    I hope everyone knows him

  7. One of the best conversation. Can you please translate it to hindi as well? I wanted my mother to listen. Also if possible we want Sadhguru with Actor Akshay Kumar. Thanks.

  8. I know i may get a rage from south indians..but this actor is a bit self centered and is actually not listening to what sadhguru is saying…

  9. Sadhguru’s answer to the question of Sacred Games was spot on. Cannot agree more.
    “People are hiding behind the term art”

  10. It is basically the same thing he says in all this conversations.. just the way of explaining is different rightly apt for the audience.. somehow every time he answers anything I know what he going to say, but something keeps me wanting to listen more

  11. Not that I am criticizing Hinduism, but his firm beliefs that about ayodhya kingdom existing and war fought and anchoring it to reality rather than mythology doesn't seem like him anymore.

  12. Sadhguru do you still think the earth is a planet?? Have you examined the world in which you live? Or do you know from personal experience? The world is waking up knowing the earth is flat ,stationery and the centre of universe. Is the greatest consciousness shift in the history of humanity. The earth is a centre of universe its the only truth topic that can bring down the entire eliterun control system by itself!!
    If you think you live on a planet.
    Congratulations Sadhguru NWO (New World Order) have completed your brainwashing successfully. Can you prove one piece of FACTUL and irrefutable evidence in support two things. A) the curvature of the alleged spinning ball Earth. B) the motion of the alleged spinning ball Earth.
    If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."The earth is a planet is the biggest lie ever told,and even believed. So stop defending their lies and wake up. The abaurdity of the globe is believing that water's surface takes the shape of what is undornoath. Even if oceans were forced to stick to the ball earth because of gravity, the water still remain leave, not curved!
    All the space agencies are controlled by NASA including ISRO. NASA they are liars.
    Horizon always at eye level and water always find its flatness. Is only possible on a flat plane. Truth is only visible to those who are able to question everything that they have been taught to believe.
    So trust your eyes, and trust your experience. Trust your feelings and trust your intuition. Search for the truth Sadhguru. Never forget,the bodies of water always seek and find level. Is only possible on a flat plane. Research it Sadhguru.

  13. i don't understand Telugu but I enjoyed every second of the video without reading the subtitle …. coz its SADHGURU !!!!

  14. ఏంతచదీవినదేశబాశలందుతేలుగులేసా

  15. ఏంతచదీవినదేశబాశలందుతేలుగులేసా

  16. Nani: is success overated
    Sadguru: Alexander didn't drink water 😂
    Me:🤣😂😅😆
    Again Nani: is Disthtri is there?
    Sadguru: they used to bath trice a day😂
    Aslo me:😆

  17. South indian people are more cultured & sweet & nice ! I say that as a north Indian born & brought up & living in delhi

  18. I'm jealous and I also want to get a hug from Sadhguru, but I'm sure he does not want to take any karmic memory from me or from most people

  19. Min 2:06:26
    Strange, coincidence or irony ?
    NANI Happens to be an Ideal Topic for this session.
    Nani = Na + Ni i.e. நா + நி நாநி ( Tamil, supposedly Mankind's very first language )
    In fact our Sadhguru's topic is all about You & Me ( நா + நி )
    Philosophically expressed : Na + Ni = We
    We now have a Nyani / Sadhguru conducting a lesson for the rest of us
    to help find the very elusive Peace & Prosperity that we are ALL seeking/missing
    from the Dawn of Civilization gwb

  20. When Sadguru's voice is nicely audible in all his programmes, the voice of aspirants who ask questions is quite low and not audible in many of the shows. If possible, kindly try to improve.

  21. Vipassana is for free. I have done it. One make a donation after as is only possible to do the course because people who did before one donated

  22. Cinemas success avadam ledhani ilaga advertise cheyinchukuntunnadu. Veedu oka waste gadu. Veedu oka yellow cinema community ki chendinavadu kabatti yellow cinema and yellow media vallandaru push chestunnaru. Mana karma

  23. This is the first time I am seeing subtitles for actions happening in a video. This editor deserves ekkees topon ki salaami.

  24. Looks like he wants all the applause for his answers …when people clap for Nani he is disturbed….idk why people are so crazy about this guy. He never answers a question staright. To me his answers never make sense to the question asked. He boasts about himself a lot. Mocks at all the people who has opinion different than his. Dumb guy and people clapping for his dumb answers are even dumber. Nani seems much more mature and composed

  25. We want to see a conversation between RGV (Ram Gopal Varma) and Sadguru. ….👍👍👍👍

    Because no one ever asking any logical questions to sadguru.😞

  26. What is that non-physical dimension of our life which we need to touch/feel to get rid of all those memorial cycles?

  27. Nani is quite funny, why does he want answers to questions about things he already knows, "I don't feel as happy now that I'm more successful, is it overrated?" Everyone says that they are experiecing this, how many times must humans climb to the top of a mountain to realise that there are only rocks there and they must come back down? There is no way to move UP in life, the perception of moving up is because we grow, but we really can just expand limitlessly through our inner experience. Don't limit yourself by having a "goal" or a perception of "success".

  28. Nani super asalu..m
    Kontha mandi so called stars untaru Telugu cinema lu testaru Telugu audience untaru andaru Telugu Valle untaru kahani english lo speech lu istaru … Hmm

  29. I liked the playfully tricky and innocent way of questions asked by Nani. His way of asking was different than the normal interviewers. So far as I have seen Sadhguru interviews, most interviewers seem to feel like they make ending making themselves a fool of themselves and end up not asking them and ask some oft repeated plain questions.But Nani seemed to be without a hint of inhibitions without feeling like he will look like a child asking questions. Most adults would hesitate.

  30. Namskaram sadhguru.
    Will you ever visit Shiva's another place Manimahesh that is in Chamba, Himachal. The peaceful place needs your blessings Sadhguru. Please make a visit and let us know when it is possible.
    Namaskaram.

  31. Solutions take time, this is what people don't understand. There is no golden solution, no magical potion. We think there is cough medicine for everything, but what we don't understand is that most medicines don't cure illnesses, they just eliminate symptoms. We are always focused on the symptom. We need solutions and if we want solutions then we need to be committed to it. This is what Sadhguru is saying with this agroforestry. So if you think 5-10 years, that's too long, they need help now? Then why don't you think of an immediate solution that acts now. Then in 5 years time when their tree effort has matured, you'll still be thinking "what's the solution?"

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