Firefighter Opens Up About Overwhelming Stress As A Firefighter | Megyn Kelly TODAY


[ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ]>>>GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
GOOD MORNING.ING, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. AND WELCOME.
IM MEGYN KELLY. IM MEGYN KELLY.
WE BEGIN TODAY WITH WE BEGIN TODAY WITH FIREFIGHTERS. FIREFIGHTERS. THEY RISK THEIR LIVES EVERY TIME
THEY ARE CALLED TO DUTY.ERY TIME THEY ARE CALLED TO DUTY.
AND IN TODAYS SHOW, SOME WILL AND IN TODAYS SHOW, SOME WILL SHARE A SIDE OF THEMSELVES WE SHARE A SIDE OF THEMSELVES WE RARELY SEE. RARELY SEE. BEING ON THE FRONT LINES OF BEING ON THE FRONT LINES OF TRAGEDIES WILL LEAVE SOME OF OUR
FIRST RESPONDERS WITHSOME OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH
OVERWHELMING STRESS. OVERWHELMING STRESS. GIVEN THEIR NEED TO STAY STRONG GIVEN THEIR NEED TO STAY STRONG IN A CRISIS, THE INSTINCT IS IN A CRISIS, THE INSTINCT IS OFTEN TO DO THAT. OFTEN TO DO THAT. STAY STRONG, DONT ASK FOR HELP, STAY STRONG, DONT ASK FOR HELP, YOURE ASKED. YOURE ASKED. THERES CONSEQUENCES TO THAT
DECISION.NSEQUENCES TO THAT DECISION. AND DAVID USHRY, AN ANCHOR FROM AND DAVID USHRY, AN ANCHOR FROM OUR NEW YORK STATION, HAS A
LOOK.EW YORK STATION, HAS A LOOK.>>THIS IS A REDUCED PROFILE>>THIS IS A REDUCED PROFILE DRILL. DRILL. GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB.>>Reporter: JACQUES ROY IS A>>Reporter: JACQUES ROY IS A TEXTBOOK FIREFIGHTER. TEXTBOOK FIREFIGHTER. PHYSICALLY FIT, A CAPTAIN,
SERVING THE CITY OF STAMFORD SERVING THE CITY OF STAMFORD
WHERE HE GREW UP. WHERE HE GREW UP. WHAT HAPPENED CHRISTMAS DAY
2011, GOT TO HIM.ISTMAS DAY 2011, GOT TO HIM.
>>I WAS THE GUY.>>I WAS THE GUY.
I WAS THE GUY WHO COULDNT HACK I WAS THE GUY WHO COULDNT HACK
IT. IT. I WAS THE GUY WHO NEEDED HELP. I WAS THE GUY WHO NEEDED HELP. I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE ME.
BUT IT WAS ME.T IT WOULD BE ME. BUT IT WAS ME.
>>Reporter: WITH PRESENTS>>Reporter: WITH PRESENTS
WRAPPED AND UNDER THE TREE, FIRE WRAPPED AND UNDER THE TREE, FIRE
BROKE OUT AT THE HOME OF MADONNA BROKE OUT AT THE HOME OF MADONNA
BADGER. BADGER. IT WAS MERCILESS.
7-YEAR-OLD TWINS, THEIR 7-YEAR-OLD TWINS, THEIR
9-YEAR-OLD SISTER AND MATERNAL 9-YEAR-OLD SISTER AND MATERNAL
GRANDPARENTS ALL DIED ON GRANDPARENTS ALL DIED ON
CHRISTMAS MORNING THE WHEN CHRISTMAS MORNING THE WHEN CAPTAIN ROY AND HIS TEAM CAME IN
TO RELIEVE THE FIRST SHIFT, THEN TO RELIEVE THE FIRST SHIFT, THE
GRANDFATHER AND THE GIRLS WERE GRANDFATHER AND THE GIRLS WERE STILL MISSING.
>>OUR CREW RECOVERED THOSE TWO>>OUR CREW RECOVERED THOSE TWO
BODIES. BODIES. IN THE DAYS THAT FOLLOWED, THE
WHITISH-PINK COLOR I EXPERIENCED WHITISH-PINK COLOR I EXPERIENCED
AT THE SCENE, EVERY TIME I SAW AT THE SCENE, EVERY TIME I SAW
IT, I WOULD RELIVE THE INCIDENT. IT, I WOULD RELIVE THE INCIDENT.
AND I WOULD DRIVE MY KIDS TO AND I WOULD DRIVE MY KIDS TO
SCHOOL. SCHOOL. I DROPPED THEM OFF AND EVERY
GIRL HAD A BACKPACK WITH THAT GIRL HAD A BACKPACK WITH THAT
COLOR ON IT. COLOR ON IT.
>>Reporter: YOU SEE YOUR EYES.>>Reporter: YOU SEE YOUR EYES.
YOURE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN YOURE IN A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN
COMFORTABLY TALK ABOUT IT. COMFORTABLY TALK ABOUT IT.
BUT STILL, ITS A STRUGGLE WITH BUT STILL, ITS A STRUGGLE WITH
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT?>>YEAH.>>YEAH. ITS NEVER PLEASANT.
NEVER PLEASANT.ANT. NEVER PLEASANT.
>>Reporter: CAPTAIN ROY SPEAKS>>Reporter: CAPTAIN ROY SPEAKS
HALTINGLY ABOUT THAT DAY. HALTINGLY ABOUT THAT DAY.
AND HES ONLY ABLE TO DO SO AND HES ONLY ABLE TO DO SO
AFTER GETTING THE COUNSELING HE AFTER GETTING THE COUNSELING HE
NEEDED FROM A TRAUMA SPECIALIST. NEEDED FROM A TRAUMA SPECIALIST.
BUT SO MANY OF OUR FIRST BUT SO MANY OF OUR FIRST
RESPONDERS DONT GET HELP AND RESPONDERS DONT GET HELP AND
THEYRE HURTING. THEYRE HURTING.
WE KNOW, BECAUSE THEY TOLD US. WE KNOW, BECAUSE THEY TOLD US.
IN IN NBC PARTNERED WITH THE NATIONAL
FIREFIGHTERS AND SENT SURVEYSAL FIREFIGHTERS AND SENT SURVEYS
ACROSS NORTH AMERICA. ACROSS NORTH AMERICA.
7,000 FIREFIGHTERS PAINTED A 7,000 FIREFIGHTERS PAINTED A
PICTURE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO COPE PICTURE OF PEOPLE TRYING TO COPE
WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND PTSD. WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND PTSD.
27% SAY THE STRESS HAS LED TO 27% SAY THE STRESS HAS LED TO
SUBSTANCE ABUSE. SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
AND 19% SAY THEY HAVE HAD AND 19% SAY THEY HAVE HAD
THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE. THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE.
BY THE VERY NATURE OF THE JOB, BY THE VERY NATURE OF THE JOB,
FIREFIGHTERS HAVE TO FIREFIGHTERS HAVE TO
COMPARTMENTALIZE. COMPARTMENTALIZE. THEY HAVE TO SET ASIDE EMOTIONS
AT THE MOMENT.ET ASIDE EMOTIONS AT THE MOMENT.
>>WE SUFFER FROM THE SAME>>WE SUFFER FROM THE SAME
CHALLENGES THE GENERAL PUBLIC CHALLENGES THE GENERAL PUBLIC
DOES. DOES. FINANCIAL ISSUES. FINANCIAL ISSUES. MARITAL ISSUES. MARITAL ISSUES. NOW, YOU COMPOUND THAT WITH THE NOW, YOU COMPOUND THAT WITH THE HORROR YOU SEE EVERY DAY. HORROR YOU SEE EVERY DAY. IT ADDS UP. IT ADDS UP.>>SO, THESE FIREFIGHTERS, WHO>>SO, THESE FIREFIGHTERS, WHO COME RUNNING WITH GEAR THATS COME RUNNING WITH GEAR THATS ALMOST 50 POUNDS, COME WITH
EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE THATS THERE EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE THATS THERE
LONGER. LONGER. SO MANY ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT SO MANY ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE PERCEPTION.
81% SAY THEY WILL APPEAR WEAK. 81% SAY THEY WILL APPEAR WEAK.
87% SAY ITS KEEPING THEM FROM 87% SAY ITS KEEPING THEM FROM
GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED. GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED.
ITS A NUMBER TWO HIGH. ITS A NUMBER TWO HIGH.
THATS WHY JACQUES ROY IS THATS WHY JACQUES ROY IS
TALKING ABOUT IT, TO US AND TO TALKING ABOUT IT, TO US AND TO
HIS BRETHREN. HIS BRETHREN.
>>IT MAY SEEM CONTRARY TO>>IT MAY SEEM CONTRARY TO
EVERYTHING YOURE THINKING TO EVERYTHING YOURE THINKING TO
YOURSELF. YOURSELF. WERE NOT SUPERHEROS. WERE NOT SUPERHEROS. WERE HUMAN. WERE HUMAN.>>JOINING ME NOW, CAPTAIN>>JOINING ME NOW, CAPTAIN JACQUES ROY AND DAVID UKSHERUSHE JACQUES ROY AND DAVID UKSHERUSHE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE HOUSE ON BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE HOUSE ON CHRISTMAS DAY, YOU HAD BEEN CHRISTMAS DAY, YOU HAD BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF FIRE TRAUMAS THROUGH A LOT OF FIRE TRAUMAS AND OTHER TRAUMAS AS A AND OTHER TRAUMAS AS A FIREFIGHTER? FIREFIGHTER? AS A CAPTAIN, RIGHT? AS A CAPTAIN, RIGHT?>>I HAD 19 YEARS OF SERVICE AT
THE TIME OF THAT INCIDENT.CE AT THE TIME OF THAT INCIDENT.
>>WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT>>WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT
DAY? DAY?
I DONT KNOW IF IT WAS THAT I DONT KNOW IF IT WAS THAT
PARTICULAR INCIDENT. PARTICULAR INCIDENT. IF IT WAS SO OVERWHELMING OR A
TIPPLING POINT OF A NUMBER OFA TIPPLING POINT OF A NUMBER OF
PREVIOUS INCIDENTS. PREVIOUS INCIDENTS.
THE FACT THAT IT WAS CHRISTMAS, THE FACT THAT IT WAS CHRISTMAS,
THE FACT THERE WERE YOUNG THE FACT THERE WERE YOUNG
CHILDREN INVOLVED, AND I HAD CHILDREN INVOLVED, AND I HAD
CHILDREN OF THE SAME AGE, I CHILDREN OF THE SAME AGE, I
COULD RELATE TO IT. COULD RELATE TO IT.
IT SEEMED TO AFFECT ME MORE THAN IT SEEMED TO AFFECT ME MORE THAN
I HAD EVER BEFORE. I HAD EVER BEFORE.
>>I KNOW YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH>>I KNOW YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH
THE BODIES THAT WAS MORE THE BODIES THAT WAS MORE
INTIMATE IN A WAY THAN IS NORMAL INTIMATE IN A WAY THAN IS NORMAL
FOR FIREFIGHTERS. FOR FIREFIGHTERS.
NORMALLY THE M.E., THE CORONER, NORMALLY THE M.E., THE CORONER,
WILL TAKE OVER. WILL TAKE OVER.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD BE
TRAUMATIC. TRAUMATIC. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU AFTER
IT HAPPENED, JACQUES, TO AFTER IT HAPPENED, JACQUES, TO
REALIZE, IM NOT GELTTING OVER REALIZE, IM NOT GELTTING OVER
IT. IT. THE THING I THOUGHT I COULD THE THING I THOUGHT I COULD BRUSH PAST, I CANT.
>>YEAH.ST, I CANT.>>YEAH. I HAD A REACTION IMMEDIATELY.
IRRITABLE, UNABLE TO SLEEP, WHAT IRRITABLE, UNABLE TO SLEEP, WHAT
HAVE YOU. HAVE YOU. A LOT OF CLASSIC SYMPTOMS OF
PTSD. OF CLASSIC SYMPTOMS OF PTSD. HOPING OR THINKING THAT IN A
WEEK, TWO WEEKS, A MONTH, IT WEEK, TWO WEEKS, A MONTH, IT
WOULD GET BETTER. WOULD GET BETTER.
AND IT WASNT GETTING BETTER. AND IT WASNT GETTING BETTER.
I WAS DOING WORSE. I WAS DOING WORSE.
IT WAS AFTER TWO TO THREE IT WAS AFTER TWO TO THREE
MONTHS, ALMOST THREE MONTHS, MONTHS, ALMOST THREE MONTHS,
WHERE I REALIZED THAT I NEEDED WHERE I REALIZED THAT I NEEDED
HELP. HELP.
THE CLENCHER FOR ME WAS, I HAD THE CLENCHER FOR ME WAS, I HAD
THESE UNWANTED FLASHBACKS, THESE UNWANTED FLASHBACKS,
INTRUSIVE IMAGES. INTRUSIVE IMAGES.
AS I MENTIONED IN THE PIECE, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PIECE,
EVERY TIME I SAW THIS SHADE OF EVERY TIME I SAW THIS SHADE OF
PINK, I WOULD RELIVE THE PINK, I WOULD RELIVE THE
INCIDENT. INCIDENT. AND THE FINAL STRAW FOR ME WAS
WITH MY SON.L STRAW FOR ME WAS WITH MY SON.
ONE OF MY SONS JUMPED UP ON MY ONE OF MY SONS JUMPED UP ON MY
LAP. LAP. AND WHEN WE HAD TO REMOVE THESE AND WHEN WE HAD TO REMOVE THESE BODIES, I MOVED THE LITTLE GIRL.
I WAS AT HER HEAD.E LITTLE GIRL. I WAS AT HER HEAD.
AND IT WAS JUST A VERY SIMILAR AND IT WAS JUST A VERY SIMILAR
POSITIONING. POSITIONING.
AND I HAD A COMPLETE FLASHBACK. AND I HAD A COMPLETE FLASHBACK.
I WAS IN THE ROOM AGAIN. I WAS IN THE ROOM AGAIN.
I WANTED TO SHOVE MY SON OFF MY I WANTED TO SHOVE MY SON OFF MY
LAP. LAP.
19 YEARS OF SERVICE, I NEVER HAD 19 YEARS OF SERVICE, I NEVER HAD
ANYTHING COME CLOSE TO THAT ANYTHING COME CLOSE TO THAT
HAPPENING. HAPPENING. I LOVE THE JOB.
I STILL LOVE THE JOB. I STILL LOVE THE JOB.
ITS THE BEST JOB IN THE WORLD ITS THE BEST JOB IN THE WORLD
99% OF THE TIME. 99% OF THE TIME.
THERES 1% OF THE TIME WHEN THERES 1% OF THE TIME WHEN
YOUD RATHER BE ANYWHERE ELSE. YOUD RATHER BE ANYWHERE ELSE.
NOW THE JOB WAS AFFECTING MY NOW THE JOB WAS AFFECTING MY
ABILITY TO ENJOY MY OWN ABILITY TO ENJOY MY OWN CHILDREN. CHILDREN. AND YOU KNOW, THATS NOT
ACCEPTABLE.W, THATS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I HAD TO GET HELP. I HAD TO GET HELP. I MEAN — I MEAN –>>HOW HARD IS IT TO SIT HERE>>HOW HARD IS IT TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THAT NEED FOR AND TALK ABOUT THAT NEED FOR HELP? HELP? ITS HARD.
AGAIN, ITS NEVER PLEASANT. AGAIN, ITS NEVER PLEASANT.
BUT AS I FOUND, IM NOT THE ONLY BUT AS I FOUND, IM NOT THE ONLY
GUY THAT FEELS THAT WAY. GUY THAT FEELS THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW? THE SURVEYS VERY TELLING AND
ITS NOT SURPRISING TO ME.AND ITS NOT SURPRISING TO ME.
WITHIN MY OWN DEPARTMENT, WITHIN MY OWN DEPARTMENT,
UNFORTUNATELY, WEVE HAD TWO UNFORTUNATELY, WEVE HAD TWO
SUICIDES, TEN YEARS APART. SUICIDES, TEN YEARS APART.
WE HAVE 270 MEMBERS. WE HAVE 270 MEMBERS.
WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT A VERY WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT A VERY
BIG POOL. BIG POOL.
SO, THE ISSUE IS VERY REAL, IN SO, THE ISSUE IS VERY REAL, IN
STAMFORD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE. STAMFORD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
ITS NICE. ITS NICE. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THE AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THE STORY, DAVID, AND YOURSELF, YOU
KNOW, FOR GETTING THE MESSAGEOU KNOW, FOR GETTING THE MESSAGE
OUT. OUT.>>THE NUMBERS BACK HIM UP,>>THE NUMBERS BACK HIM UP, RIGHT? RIGHT? THE STATS IN YOUR PIECE, DAVID, THE STATS IN YOUR PIECE, DAVID, WHICH WERE BEAUTIFUL, WERE
STAGGERING.BEAUTIFUL, WERE STAGGERING.
95% ADMIT TO HAVING CRITICAL 95% ADMIT TO HAVING CRITICAL
STRESS ON THE JOB. STRESS ON THE JOB.
77%, UNRESOLVED EMOTIONAL 77%, UNRESOLVED EMOTIONAL
ISSUES. ISSUES.
71%, TROUBLE SLEEPING. 71%, TROUBLE SLEEPING.
61%, ARE HAUNTED BY MEMORIES OF 61%, ARE HAUNTED BY MEMORIES OF
BAD CALLS. BAD CALLS.
OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WE THINK, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WE THINK,
THEYRE TOUGH AND THEYLL THEYRE TOUGH AND THEYLL
NEVER — WHY WOULD WE THINK NEVER — WHY WOULD WE THINK
THAT? THAT? THEYRE TOUGH AND THEY HAVE
EMOTIONAL ISSUES LIKE ANY HUMAN EMOTIONAL ISSUES LIKE ANY HUMAN
BEING WOULD. BEING WOULD.>>EXACTLY, MEGYN.>>EXACTLY, MEGYN. THEY SEE AWFUL THINGS. THEY SEE AWFUL THINGS. WE CALL THEM, THEY COME RUNNING. WE CALL THEM, THEY COME RUNNING. WE NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW THAT
REMAINS WITH THEM.UT HOW THAT REMAINS WITH THEM. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF LIFES
OTHER CHALLENGES.L OF LIFES OTHER CHALLENGES.
FIRST IN THE BAY AREA WITH OUR FIRST IN THE BAY AREA WITH OUR
NBC STATION, AND US WITH THE NBC STATION, AND US WITH THE
PARTNERSHIP OF THE INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIP OF THE INTERNATIONAL
STATION OF FIREFIGHTERS, WE STATION OF FIREFIGHTERS, WE
WANTED TO TAKE A TEMPERATURE WANTED TO TAKE A TEMPERATURE
CHECK. CHECK. 7,000 RESPONSES ACROSS AMERICA. 7,000 RESPONSES ACROSS AMERICA. YOU PAINTED THE NUMBERS THERE,
AND JACQUES HELPED US PUT A FACE AND JACQUES HELPED US PUT A FACE
ON THE PAIN AND FRUSTRATION. ON THE PAIN AND FRUSTRATION.
AND THE YEARNING FOR PEOPLE TO AND THE YEARNING FOR PEOPLE TO
KNOW. KNOW.>>FOR ME, ITS COURAGEOUS ONCE>>FOR ME, ITS COURAGEOUS ONCE AGAIN. AGAIN. THERE YOU GO AGAIN.
HELPING YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS HELPING YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS
JUST BY SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT.

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  1. Megyn Kelly is a hatemonger, racist, and flat out liar. During her tenure at fox, aka state TV, she spent her days spreading hate across the American airwaves that have embedded itself into this nation like a growing cancer. Megyn helped spread that cancer. Inciting hundreds, if not thousands, of unreported assaults and possible murders committed by her fox news fans whipped into a frenzy after viewing one of her dog whistle hate segments. There is no room in our civilized democratic society for someone like her. BOYCOTT NBC MORNING SHOWS!!!!!

  2. All too often we think that asking for help is a sign of weakness cuz that's what we're taught. I have fallen for that lie so many times. Yet the opposite is true. It takes such courage to admit you need help and finding out your not alone is so freeing. It really sucks that so much stigma is attached to needing/wanting to reach out. Jacques Roy thank you for speaking out and being vulnerable it showed tremendous strength. #not alone

  3. how many soldiers do you think committed suicide who discovered the concentration camps interesting statistics my parents were in the camps they never had ptsd my grandma said be a man allready

  4. My dept. 185 members one of the suicides that stick out, a member came down with lung cancer. He hung himself in the basement because he couldn't do the job any more.

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